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Old 09-04-09, 12:19
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Hi all - good friend has just acquired this GMC. What would have been its purpose?

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Old 09-04-09, 15:52
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Great find!

All I can tell it is not a GMC Model AFKX-352, 4x4, Shop Van. Those were used as mobile repair shop, and came in about 10 different shop variations in WWII.

I recon your mate´s GMC was used for the same sort of purpose.

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Old 09-04-09, 15:56
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Bob,

Wait! Now, this does look more like it, doesn´t it?
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Truck 1 1/2-ton, 4 x 2 (LC), GMC COE, Signal Corps K-18, Model No. CF-351- Trailer K19 - 1942
The SCR-197 mobile station consisted of the BC-325 radio transmitter with a frequency coverage of 1.5 to 18 Mhz and an RF power output of 400 watts. Radio receivers consisted of three BC-342 and one Hallicrafters S-20R "Sky Champion". Also provisioned was a BC-119 control box. The complete set was housed in a K-18 truck and K-19 trailer combination. A 45 foot vertical antenna was used for sending and a 15 foot whip used for receiving. Power could be optionally supplied by power mains or portable generator units: one PTO driven GN-42-A generator for the transmitter and two small PE-75 skid-mounted units for the receivers.

Source: www.lone-rover.com
All your mate needs to do now is find the K19 Trailer!

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Old 09-04-09, 18:18
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I knew I had seen these pics before. Here are Life Magazine pictures of the GMC COE Signal Corps K-18 Truck and its K19 Trailer:



Click on the pictures to go the the Life Images @ Google site, then click again for lager size version of these pictures.

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Old 09-04-09, 19:03
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I am quite sure I saw a K19 trailer on eBay about 6 months ago, being sold by someone in SW USA (Arizona?) It appeared soilid but I don't remember if it had any interior or not. At least it seems one has survived.
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Old 09-04-09, 22:47
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Here is a colour photo of one originally from Historylink101.com.

good find Bob it is amazing what is still turning up.
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Old 11-04-09, 14:27
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Hi all - spoke to my good friend today who is very pleased about the responses so far. The following is off the surviving data plate.

Truck K 18 C 1 1/2 ton (LC) 472
Arm of Service Maintaining Vehicle Signal Corps
General Motors Truck
Model AF 361
Serial number 043
Gross weight 9980
Maximum Speed 45 MPH
Date of Delivery 9 - 23 - 40
Yellow Truck & Coach MFG Co
For??ac Mich

About half of the rear chassis has been cut away including the differential and rear axle. Also missing is the motor and gear box. However none of this apparently does not present a great problem. As a matter of interest what motor would have been fitted? Also would the handle on the steering column be for trailer brakes?

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Old 11-04-09, 23:11
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Bob the lower plate is probably...
Yellow Truck & Coach MFG Co
Pontiac Mich


Not 100% sure but the motor was probably the same as the 4X4 version with a similar body to that which Hanno posted earlier which had GMC model 278, 6 cyl, 248.5 cubic inch 100bhp according to TM9-2800.
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Old 12-04-09, 05:07
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I took these photos in a big dump outside Port Moresby Papua New Guinea about 2 years ago. They are still there if anyone wants bits and is willing to make the effort to pick them up.

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Old 12-04-09, 19:06
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... would be PONTIAC, MICH

According to Fred Crismon the engine would have been a 248 cu in six with a four speed transmission. Production quantities were 258 in 1941 and 109 in 1942, and your one seems to be September 1940.

I'd be planning on using a combination of Chevrolet & CCKW parts to replace the missing stuff. He's have to fit a Chevrolet 1.5 ton rear axle and a CCKW 270 engine and trans if he wanted it simple, but I know you can fit the 270 engine to a Chevrolet four speed transmission ( my K43 had that combination ) and that would be the closest to original you could get.

Chassis sections would be Chevrolet 1.5 ton to get the mounts for rear axle, but what a find, even as a shell.

Yes, that handle is the electric trailer brake controller.
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Old 12-04-09, 21:37
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The 248, 270, and 302 GMC sixes were all the same family of engine, so take your pick. I'd go with the 302 if I had the chance. They were used all through the 1950s so shouldn't be hard to find. I know there's quite a few around here.
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