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Rick:
Your carriers are gorgeous, they are far from rough shape. Most are cut down to next to nothing. You have a very nice collection there. I look forward to seeing your progress on them. Eric |
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Eric, you being from Thunder Bay do you know Don Barrie ? he is a collector of carriers and a great chap, he was kind enough to sort me out with my carrier
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is mos redintegro __5th Div___46th Div__ 1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI* Lower Hull No. 10131 War Department CT54508 (SOLD) 1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration). 1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration). |
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Rick i fitted the templates on the sides and they appear spot on i took some pics however my pc is dead so i have had to resort to using my mobile phone to access the web ! I have a query on the gunners side where the armour drops (where it meets the front cockpit) it lines up spot on with the center bulkhead plate can you check this on your carriers ?
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is mos redintegro __5th Div___46th Div__ 1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI* Lower Hull No. 10131 War Department CT54508 (SOLD) 1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration). 1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration). |
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Replied to your email Rick, thanks for getting back to me. It appears that the patterns are spot on, if you send me the others i will cut them out as per the sides and get them fitted. if you manage to get the center bulkhead measured i would be interested in this too as this is the major bit i need. i am going to salvage my glacis plate.
cheers Richie
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is mos redintegro __5th Div___46th Div__ 1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI* Lower Hull No. 10131 War Department CT54508 (SOLD) 1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration). 1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration). |
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The side armor stops flush with driver side of plate #; CTL 13284 (Plate - division – corner) as you can see in the photos. I’ve included my updated side armor drawings as well. I believe the drawings to be fairly accurate however I leave them open to the forums critique. I’m working on the bulkhead drawings I will provide them when complete.
I’ve been provided with the cost of side armor cutting, the quote is $105.00 CND funds per side. Steel will be an extra cost. Does the amount sound reasonable (this will include rivet holes)? How does this compare with other suppliers? |
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Rick you listed the armour thickness as 10mm can you tripple check this as my carrier remnants are thinner stuff. the front armour is 10mm though.
just measured the bits with a Micrometer and:- Glacis plate is 5mm Front armour is 10mm center bulkhead (main section) is 5mm Side and rear armour is 7mm this is on a 1942 canadian Mk1 that i have.
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is mos redintegro __5th Div___46th Div__ 1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI* Lower Hull No. 10131 War Department CT54508 (SOLD) 1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration). 1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration). Last edited by RichardT10829; 04-09-09 at 12:31. |
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The thickness of the armour varies. I have front armour from a Canadian Mk1, and front armour from a British mk1. Both are different. The mcDell boys had some plates cut out with a veiw to using the original steering box fabrication. It didnt work and they had to go for the thinner plate. (same as original)
I think I have reported this correctly. If your following this Greg or Chris, come in and explain.
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Bluebell Carrier Armoured O.P. No1 Mk3 W. T84991 Carrier Bren No2.Mk.I. NewZealand Railways. NZR.6. Dodge WC55. 37mm Gun Motor Carriage M6 Jeep Mb #135668 So many questions.... Last edited by Lynn Eades; 23-12-14 at 02:10. |
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Rick, how did you get on, is there anything else you need from me ?
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i have DXF'd the side armour and the center bulkhead plate (i am awaiting final details from Rick to see if any measurements need corrected on the center plate) once done i can get them onto discs etc for folk, just need the front armour, rear armour, and tool plate then that should be the lot !
Rich
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Finally…we’re starting the laser cutting of a few plates, and covers for the carriers! All the measurements were taken off a Mk 1 carrier…perhaps anyone who might know what parts are interchangeable with a Mk2 could comment.
The laser cutter company is ready to cut both sides (CTL 12774 D Plate - protection - L.H. & CTL 12775 D Plate - protection - R.H.) and is waiting for quantity. The cost per side is 220.00 CND funds for pick up in Edmonton or Three Hills Alberta, Canada. The plates will be cut to dimension and have rivet holes cut out. If you’re interested you can PM me or email to stuff4rick@gmail.com. I have provided the below original parts to the laser cutting company, they are confirming measurements will then format part drawings and I expect quotes shortly, so assess your needs and I will provide costs as they come in. ENGINE VENTILATOR CTL 7252 Plate - engine ventilator deflector CTL 12770 L Plate - engine ventilator - rear L.H. CTL 12771 L Plate - engine ventilator - top L.H. TL 12772 L Plate - engine ventilator - side - upper - L.H. CTL 13084 L Plate - engine ventilator - side - lower - L.H. CTL 12770 R Plate - engine ventilator - rear R.H. CTL 12771 R Plate - engine ventilator - top R.R. TL 12772 R Plate - engine ventilator - side upper R.H. CTL 13084 R Plate - engine ventilator - side - lower R.H. FAN COWL CTL 13359 Plate - cowl fan CTL 13360 Plate - cowl fan CTL 7180 Plate - cowl fan CTL 7181 Plate - cowl fan ENGINE COVER CTL 12778 D Plate - engine cover - top rear CTL 541 SA Plate assembly - engine cover protection - R.H. FRONT ARMOR CTL 12859 Plate - gunner protection - L.H. CTL 7461 Plate - steering box protection - right outer CTL 3885 D Plate - protection steering box - right inner CTL 12780 D Plate - gunner protection - R.H. CTL 3888 D Plate - gunner protection - left upper OTHER CTL 12779 D Plate - protection rear TL 12976 Plate - axle cover – top CTL 12997 Plate - division |
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Is there anyone who will send me the cad drawings, as freight costs for the finished product to here would be horrendous. I need to do all the front armour. Thanks.
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i have center bulkhead and sides CAD'd i am still trying to do the front plates... Lynn i can email you the DXF's and can post you copies of 1:1 drawings of the front armour if this is of any help to you ?
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Sounds good to me. Whats next?
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Email adress matey. If you email Rick he may give you the front DXF's alternate i will get another card tube and start plotting......takes me ages to draft them out though..i need to do a set for one of the lads here to CAD up. Mind folks looking at Ricks prices if you are on the same peice of rock / country as him that is a pretty good price
![]() also Rick i would not cut the lower edge holes... most folk still have these frame rails on their carriers, cut the others but not the bottom edge...its better to offer the plate up and drill them, that way any discrepancies between machines wont throw the holes out of kilter......so to speak. great work though buddy well done
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is mos redintegro __5th Div___46th Div__ 1942 Ford Universal Carrier No.3 MkI* Lower Hull No. 10131 War Department CT54508 (SOLD) 1944 Ford Universal Carrier MkII* (under restoration). 1944 Morris C8 radio body (under restoration). |
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