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Old 12-10-09, 15:36
Alex van de Wetering Alex van de Wetering is offline
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OK guys,

well, given the fact that you completely ignored my question, I have decided to have a go myself

Yesterday I bought two cans of "Mat 3" at the Keep Them Rolling swapmeet. It's a brownish tone and there is no mention of a manufacturer, brand etc. The most logical explanation I have found is that these paint mixes have actually come from the French Army, which might explain why they are labeled as "mat 3" and not "matt 3"??? So, I guess they would look the part on your Hotchkiss......that is if you can find one that isn't painted in 101 AB 506th PIR registration!

Anyway, I was surprised to see some more manufacturers have stepped up to offer premixed military paints....but most of them are all shades of Olive Drab and non of them are focussed on Commonwealth colours...It's funny to see the OD paints are labeled as RAL 6014.....yes, a German colour system for a US WW2 colour!

I will post a picture of the MAT 3 brown next to a SCC2 sample mixed according to Mike Starmers instructions. Of course the colours will look different on your screen, but at least you should be able to see if the colours are a close match or not.
From what I have seen now SCC is a little more of a "Rich brown" compared to the mat 3. There might just be a little more red in the original SCC2 colour(?). I think I am going to use the Mat 3 during the restoration of my Chev. After cleaning parts and a coat of primer, I will give it a quick coat of Mat 3, assemble everything and when the whole truck is done I will it a full overspay in the correct SCC2 mixed paint.


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Old 12-10-09, 17:34
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well, given the fact that you completely ignored my question, I have decided to have a go myself

Yesterday I bought two cans of "Mat 3" at the Keep Them Rolling swapmeet. It's a brownish tone and there is no mention of a manufacturer, brand etc. The most logical explanation I have found is that these paint mixes have actually come from the French Army, which might explain why they are labeled as "mat 3" and not "matt 3"???
Hi Alex,

I wasn´t ignoring it, but giving it some thought

When I read “logical” and “French Army” in one sentence, I thought there must be another explanation. My page on the Bundeswehr VW 181 Fleckenplan reminded me of the camouflage colour Lederbraun or leather brown with colour code RAL 8027 / FSC 30051. I have seen it on VW 181’s and is dark brown colour similar to SCC2. In German “matt” is “mat”. I believe this is a NATO colour, if so it is could (remember – there is no logic in this context ) be the same as the brown found on French vehicles etc.

I have a part in original SCC2 Brown; I’ll come by your place sometime soon to compare it to the paint you bought.

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Old 12-10-09, 20:33
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I have a part in original SCC2 Brown; I’ll come by your place sometime soon to compare it to the paint you bought.
Hanno, your are more than welcome

I have also got an ammo box in SCC2 in the garage and some remains of SCC2 on my Chev. You asked me recently about the proper colour for my C8 and I said I had decided to paint it in SCC2. I didn't tell you though, that my Chev shows traces of both Khaki Green No3 and SCC2 in the interior and another greenish colour on the windscreen frame.
It would be interesting to compare the different parts and colours, along with the Mat3 paint and the samples made according to Mike Starmers instructions.


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