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Old 05-11-09, 02:14
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OK quick question. So if this Bill is supported in the Senate, just how would it help me in getting a couple of these rifles.???
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Old 05-11-09, 02:22
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OK quick question. So if this Bill is supported in the Senate, just how would it help me in getting a couple of these rifles.???
My understanding, limited as it is, is that the proposed bill only affects the registry of long weapons and that it does nothing to change the licensing requirements to possess or acquire (quaint government phrases) a weapon. As others have pointed out, the bill passed one of its three readings today and now goes to committtee for study and revision. As a private member's bill it may well suffer the fate of many other private member's bills and die on the order paper when parliament is disolved for the next election (whenever that happens given the minority government we have at the moment).

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Old 05-11-09, 02:52
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If this bill goes through it only removes the requirement to register non-restricted long arms.

You will still need a license to possess a workable rifle, and it will still be a criminal code offense to be in possession of one without a license.

The bill does not make replicas legal in Canada, they will remain as prohibited items. You don't need a license to have them, but they must be locked up, and they have to be transported like a firearm, and they can't be imported by the average guy.

What this bill will do for you is make it easier for you to get that dewat. Since the rifle would not be registered, you would not have to go through the hoops to deregister it as a deact. You will be able to simply weld a pin through the breech, and that should satisfy anyone that the gun cannot be easily made to fire.

Personally, I will be happy to see this albatross gone. It wasn't that many years ago we were paying $25 every time we transferred a rifle, and the antis wanted to raise that up some to cover the spiralling costs of the great white elephant called gun control.
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Old 05-11-09, 03:00
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OK quick question. So if this Bill is supported in the Senate, just how would it help me in getting a couple of these rifles.???
Currently, having live firearms on MV's is a bad idea (I think). So wanting dummy or deactivated makes sense...providing it's done safely and only at the right venues!!

Dummy, replica guns are banned in Canada, unless you owned them before the law changed.

Deactivating live rifles is fine, so long as they are done to current government guidelines. But here is the problem. If you register yourself for acquiring firearms, take the course, write the test, etc. then go out and buy a rifle or two, you would then have to confirm they've been deactivated. This process would be time consuming and expensive.

If the Senate passes C-391, then you may convince a licensed owner to buy a clunker, deactivate it to current standards and sell it to you. The difference is that without the firearms registry, there would be no need to get the rifle certified deactivated and de-registered.

I note that in the UK deactivated firearms sell for higher prices than real ones:

http://www.chrisjohnsons.co.uk/shop/shop.php
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