HUP with a difference. . .

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Phil Waterman

it appears to have front hubs and assume axle of a two wheel drive

Ten points to you, Phil!

As far as I know, this is one of a number of HUPs so converted, probably by placing them on C15 chassis in Belgium where they were used by a breakdown support vehicle by a tramway operator.

This example was subsequently acquired and restored by a tramway museum in Holland. It represents the regular HUPs used as busses shortly after WW2 by HTM, the Hague Tramway Corporation.

H.

[Alex van de Wetering]

Just checked the registration and it is also registered as a 6 cylinder DIESEL.

It does look smooth without all the seems on the body..

Alex

[Phil Waterman]

I think there is a vintage picture of one of these conversions, now for the fun what archive did I find the picture in.

Cheers Phil

[Brian Gough]

Hi Hanno, Phil and Alex - a bit more,

In the November 15, 2002 Wheels section of the Ottawa Citizen newspaper, there was an article titled "Canada's other unsung wartime achievement" by Roy Thomas, an Ottawa writer.

The article briefly gave the story of CMP production and featured (including a picture) this particular C8A HUP, serial #3844515759, build date Oct 4, 1943 that is on display at The Hague Public Transport Museum (HOVM).

"After the war, this truck was first used by the Belgian city of Brussels. In 1980, serial 3844515759 was acquired by the HOVM and was then restored to represent the CMP vehicle that plied the Ypenburg - Rusijk bus route."

The article goes on to say, "The Canadian Military Pattern vehicle is a "runner" or will be if a vital part for one of the axles can be found."

Cheers,

Brian

[lynx42]

Must have to carry 2 spare wheels. 8 studs on the front and 6 on the rear.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by lynx42

Must have to carry 2 spare wheels. 8 studs on the front and 6 on the rear.

Rick,

Well spotted! That means it has a converted HUP driveline, instead of the HUP body having been transferred over to a C15 4x2 chassis. Alex noted it has a diesel engine. The Belgians went through great lenghts converting this HUP!

H.

[Alex van de Wetering]

Brian, I agree with Hanno....really interesting to see this HUP was in a newspaper article in it's country of Birth!

"CHEVROLET CHU 441 Diesel".

Hanno......that type "CHU 441" almost looks like the former Belgian licence plate (?).


HUPs were very popular as buses here in Holland after the war, along with Austin K2's with AFS body and also Bedford MW's and Fordson WOT's, although those last two received a whole new rear body. My father is very interested in classic trains, buses and trams and I remember seeing pictures of the original HUP Ypenburg in one of his books. I will see if I can find the pic.

Alex

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Brian Gough

The article briefly gave the story of CMP production and featured (including a picture) this particular C8A HUP, serial #3844515759, build date Oct 4, 1943 that is on display at The Hague Public Transport Museum (HOVM).

"After the war, this truck was first used by the Belgian city of Brussels. In 1980, serial 3844515759 was acquired by the HOVM and was then restored to represent the CMP vehicle that plied the Ypenburg - Rusijk bus route."

Brian,

Interesting to see this HUP made it to a newspaper article in Canada!

With so many modifications - drive line, engine - it cannot be more than a "representation" of the HUP that was used as a bus.

Will ask one of my uncles if they remember seeing it, as it must have passed the bridge in front of their house in Rijswijk!

Hanno

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Phil Waterman

I think there is a vintage picture of one of these conversions, now for the fun what archive did I find the picture in.

Phil,

I recall reading about it in Wheels & Tracks magazine, must the no.1 or 2 issue?

H.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering

Just checked the registration and it is also registered as a 6 cylinder DIESEL.

Alex,

I did the check to and see it is listed as a "CHEVROLET CHU 441 Diesel". Probably a Perkins or one of those other once popular diesel conversions?

H.