21st. Army group Vehicle signs

[Mark W. Tonner]

Originally Posted by Blackpowder44

I have a book printed by the 21st. Army Group that shows all the vehicle formation signs. These signs were in use only on the vehicles. I will post the first five below, as you can see they relate to Canadian units. There are quite a few more so if you are interested I will post some more. John.

John;

I hate to disappoint you, but none of these ‘formation markings’ pertain to Canadian Army units, they are all in fact for Royal Army Service Corps formations (not Royal Canadian Army Service Corps formations):

image 1 - CRASC 1 Tk Tptr Coln = Commander Royal Army Service Corps 1 Tank Transporter Column
image 2 - CRASC 2 Tk Tptr Coln = Commander Royal Army Service Corps 2 Tank Transporter Column
image 3 - CRASC 20 Tpt Coln = Commander Royal Army Service Corps 20 Transport Column
image 4 - CRASC 21 Tpt Coln = Commander Royal Army Service Corps 21 Transport Column
image 5 - CRASC 24 Tpt Coln = Commander Royal Army Service Corps 24 Transport Column

all of the above are Royal Army Service Corps formations not Royal Canadian Army Service Corps.

Cheers

[Blackpowder44 (RIP)]

Thanks for putting me straight on the meaning of CRASC.On looking at the few cloth shoulder titles I have for Canadian units I see that the title reads RCASC. Never the less on looking through the book I think I have found three examples of Canadian formation signs. John.

[peter simundson]

Great examples of tac signs. Now if only a book can be found showing all the Canadian Tac signs illustrated the same way.

Simundson

[Mark W. Tonner]

Originally Posted by Blackpowder44

... I think I have found three examples of Canadian formation signs

Hi John;

Yes, you are correct:

image 1 - No. 64 Army Transport Company, R.C.A.S.C.
image 2 - No. 85 Bridge Company, R.C.A.S.C.
image 3 - No. 86 Bridge Company, R.C.A.S.C.

all of which served under Headquarters, Commander First Army Transport Column, R.C.A.S.C.

Cheers

[Ed Storey]

Were these signs ever used?

[Blackpowder44 (RIP)]

Originally Posted by edstorey

Were these signs ever used?

In the booklet printed by the Printing and stationary service, 21st, Army Group there are 88 pages of vehicle formation signs, so they must all be recognised as " official" badges. John.

[Ed Storey]

When was the book published? You can get this from the imprint information on the manual.

Sure the signage was 'recongnized', but this does not necessarily mean they were ever used.

Don't ge tme wrong, the book and the images are very interesting, the next step in the process is finding an image of them in use.

[Blackpowder44 (RIP)]

Originally Posted by edstorey

When was the book published? You can get this from the imprint information on the manual.

Sure the signage was 'recongnized', but this does not necessarily mean they were ever used.

Don't ge tme wrong, the book and the images are very interesting, the next step in the process is finding an image of them in use.

In reply Ed,I think that 21st. Army group ceased to exist in late 1945 or early 1946, and begame BAOR . Therefor the book I have shown pictures from must have been published fairly soon after the end of WWII. There is no publishing date in the book itself, only that it was printed by Printing and Stationary Service 21st. Army Group. John.

[Marc - Belgium]

Originally Posted by edstorey

Sure the signage was 'recongnized', but this does not necessarily mean they were ever used.

Don't ge tme wrong, the book and the images are very interesting, the next step in the process is finding an image of them in use.

Here's a photo of one of the signs being used (on the backboard of the truck on the right):

12april1945tussenDeventerenZutphen1.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...enZutphen1.jpg

I found it on the following website : http://www.monument.apeldoorn-onderw...otogalerij.htm


Here's a cutout of the high-res copy I requested, the unit sign looks like 1319 to me. Any ideas as to which unit this is ?
Pontonbrugcutout.jpg
http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...brugcutout.jpg

Marc