T16 and Bren carriers for sale on Milweb

[RichardT10829]

as per title folks, i really like the T16 but alas dont have 20K+ otherwise i would snap it up.

the bren carrier has been on here before I think, cant recall if it was made by sentinel wagon or if there was some issue i cant find the thread but it looks like the same carrier. I know one chap but have only met him once and not technically affiliated etc etc.

here is the link

http://www.milweb.net/classifieds.php?type=1

Bren carrier:-
Bren Carrier, Universal Number2 Mk2 *
For restoration. All major parts present, engine is good, some parts already overhauled, loads of new parts. 80% there. Missing some armour and tin work. Used at War & Peace in diaroma hence paint job, £16,500.
07786 684730

T16:-
Restored in 1980 and now in need of doing once more.
All complete, but needing stripping, cleaning an repainting.
Based in Kent.
£25,000 - please call or e mail. 07989 576482
Serious enquiries only -No photo hunters please.

strange how this one is on modern plates and unless my eyes decieve me wont be tax exempt.... V I think is 1980's reg ?????? i think i would be re registering it if it was.

[shaun]

Hi Richie,
This is not my sentinal hull, not selling that at the moment. this is a Canadian lower hull, it still has the lower hull number visable on the rear angle iron. it has no rot and needs most of the top armour making apart from the spare gunners and drivers armour which has been temporaly bolted on. it was made to look like a captured "bren carrier" for our desert display at the war and peace show this year (are we going to see you there next yea ?). glad to see you are progressing with your project.
TTFN Shaun

[RichardT10829]

yes matey i will be there if its on foot, in my carrier, in another carrier..... will be there though.

[Swiper]

Sent the T-16 chap a message and he said:

"I myslef used this and had fun with it in the 1980's and it has been stood in a dampish shed since then. This is why it needs doing again. If it required a respray it would at least £35k"

[RichardT10829]

I have just heard from a relaible scource that the chap should be given a wide birth, the 25k price bracket for unrestored T16 would echo this, bearing in mind Kevin weatcroft had two hulls for sale last year for 4500 GBP.......mind they were in super poor state and were empty within (but the hulls were ok) also got offred another T16 complete 14miles on clock with seized engine for 9K.... this was only just last year.... I shall not name my scource but that person has had direct dealings with the seller in the past. i think pending on what comes with Shauns his would be the better deal, mind me being me i would be a hagglin

EDIT: i should clarify that i have had no dealings with this chap and i can only take comments on face value, those that have dealt with the chap are members on this forum and i would leave it to them to comment if they wish...

[ajmac]

Richie
Sorry to resurect this old thread, but...... do you think those two hulls from Wheatcroft are the same ones we were talking about yesterday that are now forsale at SE?

[RichardT10829]

if they are shot up to hell then yes he wanted 4500 for the pair but i cant stress enough how bad they were. give him a ring, he is a nice bloke, he may stillo have them if not may have something else, he is always looking for funds for his Panther rebuild

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by RichardT10829

T16:-
Restored in 1980 and now in need of doing once more.
All complete, but needing stripping, cleaning an repainting.

The slope on the front hull makes me think there is more knee room for the driver. Can anyone with 'seat time' confirm?

[horsa]

There is lots of room for knees and heavier set people up front in both positions on a T-16. Plus steering is with tiller bars so you don't have a vertical wheel in your chest taking up space as on other types of carriers.

Nuts and bolts are all modern fine or coarse thread so even grade 8 replacements are easy to source and affordable. And most of the engine, tranny and brake parts are readily available, having been used for 20+ years on common commercial Ford vehicles.

Some of the reasons I went that route instead of getting a more traditional British/Canadian Mk I or Mk II pattern. Link below is the MLU thread where I have a series of photos of my vehicle being restored so you can see the space available if you browse through them.

http://www.mapleleafup.org/forums/showthread.php?t=9136

[RichardT10829]

Thanks David, i advised AJ to contact you and told him about your thread

Richie

[eddy8men]

i had a look at the two t16's a couple of months ago and they were pretty bad, as in really really bad, but if that's all that's available then you just have to bite the bullet sometimes and make the most of what you've got, i told the seller i'd have them but was waiting for a bit of cash to come through from a job and that if anyone else came along with the money in the meantime then he was under no obligation to hold them for me, they both went off the market for a while and now they're back on again with the same seller but this time for £7.5k and £4.5k. so gone up by £3.5k in two months

eddy

[ajmac]

Originally Posted by RichardT10829

Thanks David, i advised AJ to contact you and told him about your thread

Richie

Yup, a fantastic restoration, I read through the lot. The Flat head V8 looked spot on.

[horsa]

It really shows you that most of these rusted hulks can be brought back to life so if you’re on a budget like I was, you don't necessarily need to find a higher priced project with good paint on it for a starting point.

[martyn]

anything can be saved just about its just a matter of costs and time that fine line and a bit of will power lol

Iam sure that looking at the pickys off the link to SE those t16s are bad but could be saved the photos ive put up here these ended up as doners for my carriers