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Old 01-03-10, 20:28
Matt Baker Matt Baker is offline
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Gday Phil,

As far as i know my engine is a standard 216 but i was told a while back that it could be a splash 235 because it has a TR engine number but i am not too sure of this?

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Old 01-03-10, 22:12
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Default Converting bell housings left to right

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I have had good luck in converting standard Chevy left hand bell housing to CMP right hand clutch fork. With extra CMP bell housings being scarce I needed to convert a US Chevy NOS housing to accept the right hand clutch fork location. While the conversion is not as easy as converting an original CMP bell housing to left hand, the original Chevy bell housing were cast for either side and only the machining determined which side.

To convert a bell housing for the other side it is just a matter of carefully drilling and tapping for the clutch fork ball stud and cutting out the side opening for the fork arm. Alignment of the ball stud is rather simple with a couple of center bolts and compass the location can be copied from a CMP housing. In my case I used the very tired and very cracked housing from my C60L. Cutting out the rectangle for the fork arm is done by carefully drilling each of the corners then cutting between the drill holes, careful cutting don’t go past your pilot hole to prevent a cracking point. So as to take up the strain of the ball stud I made a tapered washer so that the lip of the ball was flatly grounded all the around.

If anybody needs more details I’ll post better pictures.
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Old 01-03-10, 22:16
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Old 02-03-10, 11:08
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Or if you don't have the tools for a conversion leave the fork where it is and use hydraulics.
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Old 02-03-10, 14:36
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Robert's point is a very valid option Hydraulic slave cylinder will work. And if a different engine and bell housing may be the only practical solution.

I would love to see how they handled the widespread conversion of Chevys to Ford engines in North Africa that is mentioned in one of Bill Greggs book.

Now back to Chevys bell housing conversion time involved is at most 4-6 hours will be one of the major savings over conversion to hydraulic. The tools necessary to covert a Chevy bell housing from right side to left side are relatively simple and are as follows and.

Tools
1. Measurement bolts with heads cut off and spun in lathe or drill press to mark the center of the bolt end these are then threaded through the mounting holes on the bell housing measure with a compass to transfer the location to the new housing.
2. Drill hand or drill press
3. Drill Tap of the correct size and thread for the ball stud
4. 3” masking tape to locate the left side fork port and mirror to the right side confirm corners by basic measurements.
5. Air cut off saw to cut between the holes of the lever port – alternate to drill series of small holes to insert saw blade (slower but works)

One other point if at all possible replace the clip spring in the fork that hold it on the ball stud, these are available from many antique Chevy parts houses. These springs get tired after 60 years. When the springs are tired they tend to allow the fork to pop of the ball stud, particularly while you are adjusting the linkage.


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Old 02-03-10, 22:36
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Hi All

Robert's point is a very valid option Hydraulic slave cylinder will work. And if a different engine and bell housing may be the only practical solution.

I would love to see how they handled the widespread conversion of Chevys to Ford engines in North Africa that is mentioned in one of Bill Greggs book.

Cheers Phil
Believe it or not, Ford actually distributed a conversion kit! It involved a stamped steel front mounting that replicated the Chev mount, and an adapter on the Ford integral bellhousing that mated to the chev gearbox, eliminating the Chev bellhousing and clutch arrangement. The early ones were cast steel (rarities these days), but were later popularly copied in alloy by Offenhauser, Cragar and others. I think more people should put Ford Flatheads in Chevs, it would make the world a nicer sounding place. Unfortunately, the trend these days is to replace the Ol' Flatmotor with crate GM 350, for which adapters are widely available.
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Old 02-03-10, 23:17
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Default Ford / Chev

Does this prove the Ford is better?
Mostly I wondered if the Bedford bellhousing is the same as the Chev one. Has anyone been down that track?
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