Wanted: Reloadable Canadian War Dated .303 Brass

Radek · #1 06-03-10, 10:27

Any time ago I have bought original 303 box. Now I have made my own repro boxes. (the original one is with the black tipe)
I have bought fired ww2 cases and made repro bullets. The bullets are made from Sn (tin).
I thing looks great for desplay.

Radek · #2 06-03-10, 10:31

Could I ask how was stored the ammo in this wooden boxes? Separately or in boxex?

rob love · #3 06-03-10, 14:00

The box marked 7.62 would have had it's ammunition on charger clips and in bandoleers, as indicated by the marking on the side of the box. I can't make out the other box's markings, but generally the ammo in the wooden box would have been either on clips in bandoleers, or in smaller boxes of 48 (or other similar smaller quantities) or else on cloth belts.

Tony Smith · #4 06-03-10, 14:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Radek

Could I ask how was stored the ammo in this wooden boxes? Separately or in boxex?

Radek, these are not .303 ammunition boxes, but other calibres. The plywood box itself is called a H51 (that should be stamped into the woodwork somewhere), and was used for a wide variety of Small Arms Ammunition.

The first box is for 7.62mm NATO ammn (aka .308 Win, 7.62x51). The rounds were held 5 to a Charger, with 10 chargers in a Bandolier (Written on sides, with pictogram: 5 in Chgr Mk3, in Bdlr Mk3). 7 of these Bandoliers (total of 350 rds) were contained in a soldered tin liner inside. I will post some pics in daylight.

The second box is for 9mm NATO (aka Luger, Parabellum, 9x21). 9mm rounds came in cartons of 20rds, 35rds or 50rds. The 20 and 50rd cartons were WW2 sizes in which the rounds were loose within the carton, while postwar standardised on the 35rd carton which contained card dividers between rounds. This box of yours contained 25 cartons of 35rds for a total of 875 rounds, again in a soldered tin liner.

kajn65 · #5 09-03-10, 08:20

Hi Terry,

Have found out how many of your DIZ Boxer primers cases you have available for me to purchase?

I don't have to purchase a batch of minimum of 150 cases. I'd be willing to go as low as a batch of 50 such cases if necessary. If you have more available that would be great.

I'd send you a PM if I knew how. I'm sort of new to the Forum thing, let alone the internet. Lol.

Rgs...

Keyan

kajn65 · #6 09-03-10, 08:40

Hi Rob,

I was pretty lucky to get that particular type of round for that price. The dealer I bought it from only had the one available and wanted to get rid of it pretty quick. He was more interested in collecting RCMP related equipment, firearms, etc.

Just to make sure we're talking about the same type of round. The one round that I have has a chrome plated case that is indented on opposite sides and is painted red in the recess. Where the primer is suppose to be, it is also painted red. The bullet is a copper-coated FMJ. I assume its a Service Issue Mk7 Bullet. I'd give the head stamp info but I'm at work and the round is purposefully left there. Ammo of any type is frowned upon to bring to work (I work for an airline.). Is this the same type of round that you have?

I'm looking for 10-15 rounds if possible. I'd like to have ten rounds in Charger Clips and a few loose for display purposes. Just let me know how much per round you're asking.

Thanks.

Rgs...

Keyan

kajn65 · #7 09-03-10, 08:50

Hi Dave,

As I stated earlier, all our inert .303 ammunition (ones looking like Live Ammuntion) will ONLY have Spent Primers or Inert Dummy Primers (Only available in Britian or Europe?) on their cases. Live Primers (New or Misfired) are stickly forbidden for the reasons you mentioned earlier. Hence, my request for spent .303 cases with their spent primers (Boxer Primers) intact.

Rgs...

Keyan

kajn65 · #8 09-03-10, 09:18

Hi Tony,

My specific request for spent .303 cases that are Boxer Primed is because they are more easily available here on the East Coast. All Berdan Primer Cases from any vendor or shooter who has had them were quickly discarded for scrap. For any Professional Reloader or any shooter who reloads, they only use the Boxer Primer Cases for reloading because it doesn't require the specializede tooling needed to reload Berdan Primer Cases. At least that's the bunch that I have talked to over the years have told me.

Here too the Boxer Primer Cases hold a more dollar value than the Berdan Primer Cases with the Modern Reloader, especially with one who shoots; for the same reasons you state. I have also tried to abtain the Berdan Primer Cases from Service Rifle Shoots (not just in .303 calibre) and have came up empty handed. These cases are horded for the scrap value of brass. Again, which leads me to my specific request for Spent Boxer Primed Cases.

To be honest, it's an extream pain in the arse to do so. But what's a guy to do. The only other option is to use commercial brass (spent or new). The War Museum that we maybe voluteering with doesn't prefer this option. It would prefer that our Unit have War Dated spent brass for inert .303 ammo. It looks more authentic from their side of things I guess.

Rgs...

Keyan

rob love · #9 09-03-10, 14:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by kajn65

Hi Rob,

I was pretty lucky to get that particular type of round for that price. The dealer I bought it from only had the one available and wanted to get rid of it pretty quick. He was more interested in collecting RCMP related equipment, firearms, etc.

Just to make sure we're talking about the same type of round. The one round that I have has a chrome plated case that is indented on opposite sides and is painted red in the recess. Where the primer is suppose to be, it is also painted red. The bullet is a copper-coated FMJ. I assume its a Service Issue Mk7 Bullet. I'd give the head stamp info but I'm at work and the round is purposefully left there. Ammo of any type is frowned upon to bring to work (I work for an airline.). Is this the same type of round that you have?

I'm looking for 10-15 rounds if possible. I'd like to have ten rounds in Charger Clips and a few loose for display purposes. Just let me know how much per round you're asking.

Thanks.

Rgs...

Keyan

I will have those small quantities available, no problem. The round you describe is what I have, chrome cases with red flutes, and nothing in the primer pocket. I charge $2 a piece along with appropriate shipping.

kajn65 · #10 12-04-10, 03:17

Hi Rob,

Sorry for being so late in getting back in touch with you. It's be very hectic around here to say the least.

Between purchasing a full British Walnut Stock-Set Restoration Kit for my No.4Mk1 Rifle (currently trying to make arrangements with one of our members-an armourer in the Canadian Forces who works on the Canadian Rangers' .303's-to install my new stock on my rifle), work, dealing with a dead PC; and doing a display at an annual Model and Hobby Show with my Re-Enactment Unit ... I've been a very busy lad lately.

Would you reconfirm (send me a PM and/or email me-both addresses-if you like) the Head Stamp information on your WW2 Chrome Plated .303 British Drill Rounds? Are they made by Royal Labratories (stamped "R L" with a British Broad-arrow mark between the two letters) and are also stamped "VI*"; and have a copper plated FMJ bullet in their cases? (See my previous posts about the description of my single drill round.)

Once that is done, I'll be in touch with you again to confirm my order size.

Thanks again for helping a new collector/re-enactor out.

Rgs...Keyan (kajn65)