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09-03-10, 05:56
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Vehicle Paint
How many military vehicle owners actually have a photograph of their vehicle in military use? I think I would go with the white, most military vehicles these day are camouflaged, the white is different and documented.
Ultimately, it is your call. 
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09-03-10, 14:59
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However like Ed said, ultimately it's your call and there is no "wrong" answer.
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09-03-10, 20:40
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I vote green, or else the NATO multi-cam. Plain white is just a base vehicle, and as such leads a boring garrison life. If it had UN history, that would be different.
I suspect that under that white coat of paint lurks a layer of green or NATO cam anyway.
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10-03-10, 11:20
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The Truck has a 3 camo paint job as the base Green Black Brown. Then it looks like it was painted green and Black then the white, then at least 3 coats of just green.
The Paint has aligatored down to the white but it is falling off all over down to the Base 3 camo paint. There has to be 40lbs of paint on this unit. I was out to the acerage today. And took some Pictures of the Altenator for Gilles. Unfortunetly there was no part number on it that I could see. But I was able to track it down on the net. It is a Delco Remy 30-SI/TR series alternator. It is 90A output for each voltage and of Brushless design. (thats a big bonus) Weight is 11.2 Kg. It is an internal voltage regulated alternator so it is a one wire hook up alternator. The only wires going to it are the ground , 24V charge and 12V charge. This dual voltage alternator could be adapted to other applications I imagine. It would solve the 12V avalibilty issue on our other Military vehicles. But do not go looking to stuff it under the hood of an Iltis. LOL It is designed for high milage heavy-duty extra large line haul diesel engine applications with 12V vehicle systems that have 24V start. It is way way over kill on the CUCV and most likly will out last every thing else on the truck. I still wonder how that scabbed together bracket will last in the long run. If a person was pounding on the truck consistantly I doubt it would hold up. Fortunetly the lower bracket is a substantial cast peice and the lower alternator mounts are of bridge type mounting. It does not appear that the stock lower mount has been modified. The PCV hoses have been modified to accept the Alternator but that is a minor modification. It appears that the Dual voltage regulator has been removed I assume it was located on the front of drivers fender under hood. As the there are bunch of wires taped up there and a mounting plate that is now bare. Also the truck has been converted to 12V glow plugs and the big resistor grid although still in place has been abandoned. It looks like the DND removed the more trouble prone underhood 24V items. Now the only Item on the truck chassis that is 24V is the starter which is just as well in my opinion. The rest of the truck chassis is all 12V and the Van body is all 24V. I have attached a couple of pics of the Alt and the modified bracket as best I could with out tearing it apart. It looks like they lengthened the bracket and the adjustment slot was opened up wider to accept the larger Alt adjusting bolt Matthew
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15-03-10, 06:36
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registration
Hi Mathew,
I was wondering if you have registered your truck yet. I heard a rumour that the military vehicles have a notation on the serial numbers so that they cannot be road licensed. When these vehicles are sold the federal govt. enters the VIN numbers into a database that prohibits provinces licensing them. This is to prohibit vehicles that are not built to any safety standards being driven on public roads. I also heard that sales of the Iltis prompted this action. I see that your truck seems to have a typical VIN number. Some of the U.S. military Chevy blazers that I have seen have a very odd VIN number. Paul
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15-03-10, 07:14
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What is the kill factor with registering military vehicle is the bill of sale. If the sale bill described the vehicle "sold as salvage" the vehicle cannot be registered. This is the reasoning for the problems with registering MLVWs, some Iltis, that have been sold are titled salvage but many more have been sold and are on the road today.
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16-03-10, 01:34
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I was mailed a regular MOT ownership from the auction house. I have checked with registries here in Alberta and there is no issue registering the unit here after getting an out of province inspection. As far as they are concerned it is K30 Chev truck and nothing out of the ordinary. I will not be registering it until after the restoration is complete. As it stands it would not pass with the rotted innner fenders. There are no titles or ownerships so to speak of in Alberta. The vehicles registration and ownership is not separated like in Ontario or some other provinces. In Alberta you can not go to registries and get an ownership with out plating the vehicle. In Ontario you can not register a vehicle without the MOT issued ownership with out a major hassle. Here you just need a bill of sale written on most any thing and nothing else. Also there are 2 classifications of Salvage in Alberta Salvage and Non Repairable. Any vehicle that has been written off by an insurance company but could be repaired is listed as Salvage with registries. A Salvage vehicle can be put back in the road after repair following a Structural integrity inspection and an out of provincial inspection. The repairs have to meet OEM specifications or I-Car Standards. The inspection/s take place during the rebuilding of the vehicle and it is not just a final product inspection. If it is a minor repair an inspection before repair and one after will suffice. The repaired vehicle will be given a Rebuilt rating on the registration. Any vehicle declared non-repairable will not be issued any further certificate of registration. They have to have structural damaged that it is non-repairable for them to be declared non repariable.. Those vehicles can only be dismantled for parts and no structural parts (frames ect) can be reused as repair parts for other vehicles. Any MLVW"s that come through auction here unless they are structurally damaged should be listed as salvage. If you custom build a vehicle it can be put on the road here after passing a Salvage vehicle inspection as long as it meets the Alberta Transportation requirements for lamps, mudflaps, brakes, speedometer, etc. The vehicle must be designed for highway operation and can not be made from a vehicle designed for off road use. So technically it may be possible to get a MLVW on the road here even if listed as salvage on the bill of sale from the auction house. With the GVW of those units they may be classified as Commercial Vehicles and then a whole other host of issues would crop up. I do not know for sure if any one has registered a MLVW here. But I heard a rumour someone has registered a MLVW here for road use. It is a grey area since transportation falls under both Federal and Provincial jurisdictions. What one province will not allow anouther may irregardless of what the feds say. There are several former U.S Army CUCV's on the road here. And the owners had no issue getting them on the road after a Transport Canada inspection and an Alberta out of province inspection. They are just GMC trucks that are basically identical to the millions of civi units on the roads and that is how Alberta Registries and Alberta Transportation veiws them. For most ex mill vehicles registration is not the issue, it is insurance that is the biggest hassle here. Matthew
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16-03-10, 06:38
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Paint color
Rob,
Was it you that told me all of the CUCV 5/4 tons came with the American camoflouge pattern with the brown in the paint scheme and once the vehicle was due for a new paint job,they used the Canadian 5/4 ton pattern with the two different greens and the black IRR paint?So if you find brown in the paint pattern,this would be part of the original paint pattern when the truck was delivered as Canada never had a brown in any of their paint patterns? Derk.
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