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13-05-10, 09:20
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Try 25,000 Euros. Joop Staman has invested a huge sum of money to prototype and produce new Sherman tracks which include end connectors and wedgebolts. there have been problems, all of which he has had to pay for before he can sell any and there is no guarantee of how many sets he will sell. It makes carrier track look like childs play. I doubt anyone here would do the same for the love of the hobby!
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13-05-10, 09:27
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yeah i was going to say you are looking circa 10k for carrier tracks, as Adrian has said Staman put masses of money into research and development of the track systems, mind they are absolutely fantastic ! it would be great if they could do similar for carriers with a rubber main tracklink ideal for roads.
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13-05-10, 09:46
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thanks for putting me straight about the track adrian, thats what i like most about you :-
nothing  seriously though i'm not sure where i heard it was £10k, thought i saw it on his site when i was looking at sherman inst panels for one of my range wreck dreams.not that it came to anything as the panels were sold out and there's no chance of getting any armour off for a while but it never does any harm to have a plan. eddy
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13-05-10, 10:49
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It's ok Eddy, it's one of my many redeeming features......  
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13-05-10, 10:04
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He does everything he does for the Love of it and winning VSSC races, which perhaps says something about the man I guess  He had his own engine block and head pattern made, his own pistons forged and bespoke Carrillo rods, the lot... as you can imagine Adrian I go dizzy when I pop around the workshop Anyway... his plan takes the following structure... pay up front for everything in order to beat the ERAs (Drity cheating Bas*ards, he would say) all the R&D is for his own car. Meanwhile let all the fraternity know what you are doing and start clocking up orders for unobtainable spares which you are having remanufactured for your engine. When you take delivery of your cylinderhead castings (for example), you don't just get two for your car but ten, eight to sell. He has got to a break point now where he is making money had over fist because he is able to manufacture ANY part for the Riley engine. The above was just for interest - as normal I do agree with you Adrian!
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13-05-10, 10:52
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 Seriously though, he sounds like a great guy, without his efforts, many people would probably not have their cars running.
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14-05-10, 18:55
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Carrier tracks
A friend of mine has a WWII Jap tank which he is having restored in Poland. The Poles are having a new set of tracks made for it, maybe worth looking in that direction. I can find out the email of the restorers if anyone is interested. John.
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14-05-10, 23:26
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For the TV series 'The Pacific' which was mostly shot in Australia, three Japanese light tanks were built from the ground up. The tracks were made up of links cast off an original borrowed from the AWM Canberra. The word on set had it that the tracks alone cost $120,000 Australian for the three vehicles or $40,000 a set. At that time about 20,000 GBP.
One interesting detail is that the holes for the pins were miss- drilled by the machine shop so that when the track was assembled it was curved. The fix used was to assemble the track using under size pins allowing the track to run straight when installed over the wheels. The vehicles were a little bit prone to throwing them. Keep an eye on the quality. It's difficult enough at home let alone, as mentioned earlier, in China. David
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16-05-10, 21:40
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hi fella's
just had a thought about the track problem not sure if it's do-able but i'm assuming the problem with old track is the pins get worn and the holes get elongated would it not sound viable to drill the links out to a larger diameter and fit new pins to suite.let me know what you think, there's some new old stock track on ebay for £3k and an axle for £1.5k which is about double what i'd expect to pay but then if you're the only guy in town with new track then you can charge what you want. i met a great guy on saturday, a carrier owner with loads of track in his shed just goes to show it's still out there ! eddy
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16-05-10, 22:15
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Ive been reading all these postings over the past little while and don't want to rain on anyones parade. However this has all been discoused a few times over a couple of years ago. The end result is price and figuring out the metalurgy. The design of the original track was for it to wear out and the holes became elongated. once youve removed so many links from the track it ment that the whole track is now garbage. Simply drilling out the track to fit a sleeve or new pin wont work as it will change the distance for fitting a sprocket.
Now don't get me wrong, I too would love to have proper new made tracks for my carrier. However its the flipping cost of them to be made that is so prohibitive. Also, say i find a place here to make then. At 1000 lbs for a set are you going to also now pay for shipping.
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