1944 Universal Carrier Wheels - Ford Canada

[RichardT10829]

i will take you up on that offer Kevin my idler bearings are totally shot...... on the subject i just got a pair of CTL94's which were lying in a garden center near me and had been used on an ammo cart. Some dingus has sawn through one rubber (which was the better one too the other has some chunks missing but is still usable) but the cast are perfect, just got to get them off the rusted bar now.

the CTL94's are the 20" diameter bogey wheels rather than the CTL17's which i have read are the 19" diameter idlers. never the less a great find to replace my smashed rear bogey wheels yey !

[kevin powles]

When the two bearings are fitted in a carrier wheel upto the locating shoulder, the distance between them is 1 5/8" which is 41.275 mm, so your spacer needs to be 41.275mm long on its central widest part., the widest part is 60mm, with 50mm diameter for the bearings to go on either end and a 40mm hole drilled through the middle.

if you add 2 x 27mm then add 41.275 you get 95.275 mm for the total length of the spacer, I think my machinest made the total length as 95 mm, so each 50 mm diameter part was about 26.9 mm long, he did this so when you tighten up the nut you nip up the bearing onto the spacer.

I hope you can understad this without a drawing, remember each wheel casting is different.

I am running two of these spaced wheels on my carrier and they run fine with no wobble or movement, I have even left the bearing grease covers in the bearings.

Best to have one made up, fit it and put it on your carrier and tighten it up, then check the tolerences. so just to recap, total length = 95mm, 40mm hole through the centre, each spigot the bearing sits on is 50mm diameter and 26.9mm long, central part of spacer is 41.275mm between shoulders.

I know 0.075 mm is lost someware but dont worry.

[kevin powles]

Hi, I have a set of 12 110mm x 27mm x 50mm shielded wheel bearings for sale, I have fitted these size bearings to my carrier and they work well, all you need is a spacer machined up to run these bearings, details of this are in this thread. The idea of fitting these size bearings is for some reason 50mm bore bearings cost £4.50 each new and the correct 40mm bore ones cost £50each, I would like £50 for these new quality bearings, thats a saving of £550 total on the cost of the correct size bearings. I have made the spacer from both machine steel and Phosphor bronze, both work well.

Anyone interested please contact me

[Aidan]

How do you know when the wheel bearings are no good? are they like front wheel bearings on a car, loose when you move the tire back and forth when jacked up? Aidan

[kevin powles]

Hi, Yes, when you rock the wheel back and forth there is noticable play in the bearing, front idler bearings are the most critical, two of these are the correct size anyway, I fitted two plus the correct size bearing, so have spacers on all of my road wheels except the idlers. I left the shields in too so they dont require regreasing.

[listerdiesel]

This is a pretty old thread, but I thought a small update wouldn't go amiss:

The wheels that Roy von Doorp supplied and the set he re-tyred for us have been great, one set has gone now as I sold the engine with the trolley.

The other set is still in use on our Ruston engine, and the original set that we modified with strip rubber tyres we still have in the workshop.



Our trailer that we take the engine to shows in:




Peter