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Old 30-06-10, 03:31
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Let an Aircraft Mechanic Have a Look at it .During the war Radials were made for Tanks and Lancasters.The Nanton Museam of Flight has one on display.
The Continental 4and 6cyl out of Cessna Planes are the same tech as the V.W bug engines.
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Lancasters used 12-cylinder Rolls Royce Merlin liquid-cooled engines, not radials. Tim's Stuart engine is actually an American 7-cylinder down-tuned prewar aircraft radial which nowadays is more prevalent in land applications than air. Tim is advised to strip the one he has, diagnose the faults, and rebuild it from there - he and his engine man will probably know more about it than almost any aircraft mechanic, anywhere.
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Old 30-06-10, 08:37
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Lancasters used 12-cylinder Rolls Royce Merlin liquid-cooled engines, not radials..
http://www.aviation-history.com/avro/683.html

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Because of the possibility of some interruption in Merlin production, the Lancaster II was built with 1,229.5 kW ( 1,650 hp) Bristol Hercules VI radial engines. These fears did not materialize, with the result that only 300 Lancaster IIs were built
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Old 30-06-10, 08:55
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Despite the minor details, I agree with Jiff regarding aeroengine mech.

What surprises me is how such a tiny diameter crankshaft can put out 220-250HP or so.

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Old 30-06-10, 17:50
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Old 30-06-10, 21:58
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Maybe the reason is in the design, in that each power stroke happens one cyl after the next, and so is more of a continuious "Push" on the big end? (does this line of thought make any sense?) (I have never seen the internals of one) Weight saving would have been one of the main reasons that moved aero engine designers to a radial.
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Old 01-07-10, 01:35
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Maybe the reason is in the design, in that each power stroke happens one cyl after the next, and so is more of a continuious "Push" on the big end? (does this line of thought make any sense?) (I have never seen the internals of one) Weight saving would have been one of the main reasons that moved aero engine designers to a radial.
Hi Lynn,
Maybe - good thought - although the firing order on all radials AFAIK is odd numbered cylinders from 1 and then even numbers - 1, 3, 5 7, 2, 4, 6, 1,...
The rotary aero engine and conventional crank inline engines preceded the radial. It was the rotary that offerred the weight saving through air cooling, but large horsepower rotary's (c. 200HP) were a heavy revolving mass that dangerously affected the pilots ability to control their machine. I think that's what inspired design thought toward the radial's reversed concept of fixed engine with revolving crank.

It's been commonly written that the Sopwith Camel having the pilot, fueltank and rotary engine grouped close together was a deadly design for novice pilots, but had certain turning advantages in the hands of practiced pilots due to the gyroscopic effect of the engine.
I read an article years ago by Gene DeMarco about a Sopwith Camel replica (possibly Cole Palen's) where I think he wrote that at that time he'd never flown a loop in it because by about 3/4 the way through he was flying at right angles to the direction from which he first entered the loop. It's amazing what Gene and his crew at TVAL in New Zealand are doing for Great War aircraft. And I gather that it was amazing what Cole could do too.

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Old 01-07-10, 03:13
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I Knew in my gut that I was putting my foot in my mouth with that post.
You know that thing about the guy who shuts up as listens to all the fools.
Why dont I learn from him?
Your obviously quite knowledgeable about these things. I have no clue as to who Gene is, or Marco, or what TVAL is.
Are these guys tied up with Peter Jackson by any chance? Would you fill in the gaps,for me please?
Having thought about the firing order, they still fire in a circular fashion, just that its on every 2nd cylinder, as the one between the bangs is coming to the top of the exhaust/start of induction. (assuming the cylinders are numbered in a circular fashion, and there is only one bigend journal, shared by the seven conrods)
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