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Old 23-07-10, 03:57
Grant Bowker Grant Bowker is offline
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Default Followup - C60X to other vehicle comparisons

Clutch facing diameter C60X 11-1/2"
Clutch facing diameter C60L 10-3/4"
Cluch "driven member" is same part# for CCKW, AFKWX and C60X, naturally C60L is different.

Bellhousing or clutch housing - C60X is different part# than C60L and CCKW and AFKWX, even the cover for rear of flywheel viewing is different #. The C60X bellhousing is more similar to CCKW part# series than C60L. But odd to note some CCKW minor parts in this area are common to C60L and not C60X.

Transmission - all ratios except direct (obviously) are different C60X to C60L, many specified clearances are different too. Shift pattern is different C60L to C60X. Case part# and internal parts are different C60L to C60X and also seem different to CCKW and AFKWX. The few internal parts I checked #s on were different too although the part #s suggest C60X is closer to the same series of parts as CCKW than C60L. The commercial use of the C60X transmission parts (if any) is unknown. The case and transmission assembly for the C60X unlike the C60L is marked * in the parts list, indicating CMP unique.

Master cylinder - The rebuild kit listed for the late C60X is also listed as fitting the CCW and CCKW. The rebuild kit for the early C60X doesn't appear in the Master Parts List for the CCW and CCKW. The illustration of the master cylinder for the C60X is virtually identical to the one in the GMC Master parts list for the AFWX-354, AFKWX-352 and -353 as well as CCKWX-353 and some CCKW-353 and -352. I don't know if this is a case of using an existing illustration to identify parts for a mirror image assembly due to RHD compared to LHD or if the cylinder assemblies were truly the same. Neither the complete assembly or bodies nor the input shaft for the C60X show in the GMC Master Parts List but many of the internal parts are the same. This suggests to me that the mirror image theory might be valid.

The steering shock absorber seems to share many component parts with the C60X front shock absorbers but has a separate assembly part #. This might reflect something as minor as the arm being set at a different angle for the different use...... One style of C60X front shock matches a C60L part#, but there are several other #s that don't match. The shock assembly #s are also different to CCKW and AFKWX and by the time I came to this I was not going to spend time checking individual part #s.

Sometimes, the more I look and learn, the more I realize I don't know. That's where this seems to be heading after an hour and a half in the manuals.

Last edited by Grant Bowker; 23-07-10 at 03:58. Reason: edit to fix typos
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Old 23-07-10, 04:52
Harry Moon Harry Moon is offline
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Default That clears up a lot

Thanks for your efforts Grant they help a lot. So it is indeed a different bellhousing and mounting system for the C60X. I thought it might be as there is no crossmember at the transmission just boxed flanges out of each side.
So I'll go out tomorrow and take some measurements. I could just go with the bellhousing and CMP trans that I have. I think it being smaller won't create the same issues as the other way round. Now having read all about engine swaps I think this combo would also put the 270 in a C60L with the requisite modifications to the front mount and radiator support and shrouding. I wonder if the differences between early and late C60X' (never new that either) similar to early and late CCKW's? My trans and bellhousing from the CCKW I stripped are different than one of our members CCKW.
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