Looking for FV432

Andrew · #1 02-10-10, 06:56

What about bringing a m113 or m114 into canada from the US? It must be more simple than all this no?

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Originally Posted by willysacres

Hi, it's Markus from Willys Acres.

We've imported several vehicles over the years, here is what you need:

1. Money
2. Controlled goods certification
3. It needs to be a business in England to receive export permits so you can actually ship it out of England. You will need to download & set up a program called ELVIS to get the right paperwork.
4. Organize shipping from sellers place to port for seafreight (i.e. Dover, etc.), port has to be equipped for roll-on/roll-off loading as an FV432 does not fit in a container.
5. Make sure vehicle is spic and span clean (pressure washed 5 times over, no dirt in tracks, etc. Canadian officials are still mad about the mad cow disease)
6. Organize seafreight shipper to port Canada (Halifax, etc.) approx. US $ 4,000.00-6,000.00 (includes port charges & more charges & more charges)
7. Have all customs paperwork ready before it arrives at port & get it set up with your shipper (there will be duty & all applicable taxes on it)
8. Customs Inspection: Most likely customs/agricultural Canada will find a flaw, a spec of dust, something so you will have to have it washed again ($ 800-1,000)
9. Organize transportation from port Canada to your location before it arrives so it can be picked up immediately upon customs release as you will be charged for every day it sits in their yard
10. Transport will be overwidth as the FV432 is over 102" wide so transport will require special permits (more $)

Controlled goods certification takes anywhere 3-12 month & a bunch of paperwork. You also have to submit reasonable grounds for importing armour. You will have to give Canadian, American & their NATO partners permission & authorization to investigate you as well as your premisses where the vehicle/s will be kept.

You will have to provide safe storage under controlled goods which means if you take it anywhere you will have to provide 24hour security.

How all the rules and regulations are enforced varies on a case by case basis.

If you wish we can help you import your armour i.e. organize all of the above as we are certified under controlled goods and know the process.

Please contact us directly at 705-835-5739 or willysacres@look.ca

Markus

P.S.: The cheapest thing is buying it after that it costs real money!

Ryan · #2 02-10-10, 08:26

Must have cost lots to import cause it's pretty expensive:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....=STRK:MEWAX:IT

The Bedford Boys · #3 02-10-10, 10:19

I'd be going for an m548 track load carrier. Those things are cool!! Everyone has a 432 these days

Wpns 421 · #4 02-10-10, 14:49

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Originally Posted by The Bedford Boys

I'd be going for an m548 track load carrier. Those things are cool!! Everyone has a 432 these days

I have been looking for a M548 in the US and the cheapest at $6k for a parts vehicle, to have 1 vehicle I must buy 3 scrappers and then find the engine. I found one at $33,000USD and it is in very good condition, then there is the shipping $2k - $3k. I have been looking for over 2 years and have yet to find one that the owner is willing to part with. There are a few in England again price, paperwork!!!

maple_leaf_eh · #5 02-10-10, 22:42

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Originally Posted by vettes

What about bringing a m113 or m114 into canada from the US? It must be more simple than all this no?

M113's are still in service with a number of armies. As American technology, it falls under any number of restrictive regulations and end-use licenses. There are several hundred Canadian M113s listed for sale by Crown Assets*, but only to properly approved buyers. An individual is not going to have the same credability or legitimacy as a sovereign government.

But an M114 is an obsolete Vietnam-era vehicle that has been out of the US inventory for 3 dozen years. So if you can afford one, get it!

https://www.gcsurplus.ca//mn-eng.cfm....cfm#topOfCADC

rob love · #6 03-10-10, 04:39

Prefair surplus had some M113 powerpacks a while back I recall. They need to be modded a bit to work in a 548 but it's doable.

Quite frankly, I always found the 548s unreliable. A lot of the blame could go to the operators, and some of it to the design. As a one owner vehicle they might be alright.

RichardT10829 · #7 05-10-10, 11:42

gents... a truck load of 432's on milweb at present.... one is in France not much better than the UK but hey its somewhere different.

Robin Craig · #8 30-10-10, 15:38

Sadly the 432 with the Peak Engineering turret at Connaught Ranges is a bit of a sore point with me.

It is owned by the Canadian War Museum.

The range doesnt want it as a monument. It WAS a runner having been made a tidy vehicle before being handed over to CWM a number of years ago. I saw it at that time.

It is missing scopes etc as of last year when I went to view it it was on the downhill slope quite significantly. It was at the end of the yard and had become part of the snow bank the previous winter when I was there.

It potentially could be a runner again but only if CWM will do a trade for it. CWM was offered a Canadian Ferret fully done up as a monument as a straight swap but said no.

Yet again, an unloved vehicle being slowly absorbed back by nature.

Robin

Robin Craig · #9 30-10-10, 15:42

And there are two more not far from Connaught, that are outside as well with some tarping over them, which is questionable as far as its effectiveness.

The picture is poor as I had to use a phone camera as my digital had an issue that night.

R

Robin Craig · #10 30-10-10, 17:08

So,

to clarify Markus, any "armoured vehicle" coming into Canada has to be part of the controlled goods program does it?

Robin