For Sale deact Bren gun

Guy · #1 08-10-10, 07:30

Thank you to everyone who have posted comments, they have generally said one thing, deal fairly and make things right, unfortunately the seller seems unprepared to fix anything, my opinion is until the seller is prepared to correct things he should be banned from selling on MLU or perhaps even from being an MLU member, the military vehicle community is relatively small and we rely upon good faith and reputation and until the seller can prove the community can trust him again he just should not be given the chance to take advantage of someone else and break that trust. Pictures of the Bren that was actually received should hopefully be posted soon.

r.morrison · #2 08-10-10, 07:47

Enough already!: Adam, I really think you owe the forum a reply to the situation at hand. Please respond. Thank you....Robert

Guy · #3 10-10-10, 00:26

Photos of the now well known "Inglis" Bren, this is what was received, I have removed the sling, have a look and decide if this is what was advertised for sale in the original post, buyers beware.

Lynn Eades · #4 10-10-10, 01:04

Time to look in the mirror, and decide what you see.

peter simundson · #5 10-10-10, 03:05

I have to say it is a fine looking Bren and probably a bargain at $1200.
Even though is isn't an Inglis made Gun.

Peter S

Jon Skagfeld · #6 10-10-10, 06:28

Agree, Peter, but it still comes down to what was advertised.

Picture vs reality= no go.

Sunray should be publishing my thoughts on this matter tomorrow.

(Side bar...see ya Peter, Acton.)

Local Chap · #7 10-10-10, 07:44

Here's a clue in how to identify a Canadian-made Inglis:

RichardT10829 · #8 10-10-10, 09:46

nice bren... however without trying to look hard the stock is different. sorry this happened to you Guy please dont fear from buying on MLU again.

peter simundson · #9 10-10-10, 15:09

Guy....What will make you happy?? Return the gun for a full refund including shipping?? Seems to me that would solve the problem.

Adam.....What would you settle for to calm the waters???

Can we come to an agreement please?

Peter S

Guy · #10 10-10-10, 18:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by peter simundson

Guy....What will make you happy?? Return the gun for a full refund including shipping?? Seems to me that would solve the problem.

Adam.....What would you settle for to calm the waters???

Can we come to an agreement please?

Peter S

Making things right, several options, Sellers Choice although I assume we will not hear from him,
1.Exchange the Bren’s, giving me what was advertised for sale - an Inglis, and I am not paying for shipping AGAIN, seller pays to ship out the Bren and gives me $50 to return the Enfield Bren OR,
2. Refund the purchase price including shipping that I paid & $50 to send the Bren back OR,
3. Donate $200 to MLU OR,
4. Send me the dewat .303 that was also advertised for sale and this will make up the difference OR,
5. Do nothing and I hope you are banned from selling, Take your pick.

RichardT10829 · #11 10-10-10, 19:06

i like the donate option buddy but can you replace the word MLU with the word Richie ?

Adame it may assist your case if you have some input on this matter ?

DanJahn · #12 13-10-10, 00:23

Hi group.

Just to relate a short story on the power of the group that makes up a forum.

A few years ago on another MV forum I bought what was supposed to be some 1100x20 tires (tyres). After paying up front for the tires and shipping they turned out to be 900x20 in size. The seller didn't see a big problem and also thought I shouldn't complain as I got a good deal. There were a few members that didn't feel the forum was the right place to bring the matter up but I strongly feel to this day that if it wasn't for the many forum members supporting me I wouldn't have got a refund eventually from the seller.

I know MLU forum member Guy and he is a good fellow.

Dan

Alex Blair (RIP) · #13 13-10-10, 02:20

I sold manuals on MLU among other places for at least 10 years and always bent over backwards to satisfy my customers..who were all over the world..
I had a customer who didn't receive his manual in Pennsylvania..
I tracked it and it was across the border somewhere and after three weeks I had another one printed and sent courier..
The day after the second manual arrived the first one showed up He called me and I told him to keep it and give it to his dad, a WW 2 vet and tank commander.
I had another customer in England who after a few weeks notified me that one page was missing ..in the parts manual..
I checked mine and it was in the original but they had missed it in the master copy so I had another page printed and punched for the proper bindings and had it air mailed to England.
No big deal..a round trip to the copy shop ..60 KM..and an special air mail to England..about $18.00,for one page, as I recall..and a day of frigging around..
BUT the customer got his complete manual..
and was happy..
But that is how you treat your customers if you want to have a good name in this hobby..we are too small and every one knows everyone ..OR someone who knows you..or him...or them..
Be honest..admit your mistakes..fix them..
Money you can get lots of ..Your good name....Only one of them..you want to keep it..??Treat your customers with respect and honesty..
Then you can sleep at night and be welcome at any gather up ..and not have to duck and dodge and hide from some one you screwed..
End of rant..

malcolm erik bogaert · #14 13-10-10, 09:57

know what you mean..last xmas at the time of the very bad weather hear I sold a newish russian jeep to a company in London...the day of the first big blizzard young chap came up by train from London I collected him from the railway station fed him then waved him off...durring the blizzard he telephoned broken down 10 miles away..i went out in the blizzard and recovered him and the vehicle(electrics dead) offered him accomadation but he wanted to get home..battled throught the snow and got him to the station...ordered new alternator and power pack after 1 week he returned once more by train,collected him once again...another meal and away he went again...yes he broke down again at the very same spot...as snow was much worse and most roads where closed...recovered him again..returned the funds yet again and returned him to the station..we parted as friends and no hard feelings..I was lots of pounds out of pocket...but when you sell something it has to be spot on...fault was traced to a faulty electronic gizmo in the dizzy...vehicle eventualy sold but at a reduced price...result everybody happy except my wife and bank manager....regards malcolm

Geoff Winnington-Ball (RIP) · #15 13-10-10, 15:40

Given we've not heard a word from Adam since the end of September, I have no choice but to suspend his posting rights on MLU. This is a shame, and it didn't have to be this way.

Geoff