In the background

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Spot the CMP bit!

[Keith Webb]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Spot the CMP bit!

2C1 box by any chance?

[Noel Burgess]

I think Hanno's picture is one of the Matador conversions using a Hyster crane to produce a recovery vehicle - which all had a Canadian 15cwt body added behind the cab.

Thinking about it - some Federal/Trailmobile combinations in the Middle East had a 15cwt body fitted at the front of the trailer [as a storage box] - so where did all the spaare 15cwt bodies come from; were they left over from some conversion of the 15cwt or were they taken from stock leaving a number of chasis/cab units which were then used for what?/ - sort of a chicken and egg question.

Noel

[alvin5182]

Gents:
Just a couple I have found "trolling" aviation websites. Don't think they've been seen before on this site.







Al Davis

[Keith Brooker]

Photo taken in 1945 one truck has Z3585048 and 81 on the back tailgate.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Keith Webb

2C1 box by any chance?

Yes, but it is a 2B1 actually.

Originally Posted by Noel Burgess

I think Hanno's picture is one of the Matador conversions using a Hyster crane to produce a recovery vehicle - which all had a Canadian 15cwt body added behind the cab.

Thinking about it - some Federal/Trailmobile combinations in the Middle East had a 15cwt body fitted at the front of the trailer [as a storage box] - so where did all the spaare 15cwt bodies come from; were they left over from some conversion of the 15cwt or were they taken from stock leaving a number of chasis/cab units which were then used for what?/ - sort of a chicken and egg question.

How many of those Matadors and Federal/Trailmobiles were converted? I think those cargo boxes simply came from wrecked CMP 15-cwt trucks, or were left-overs from rebuild programmes.

H.

[chalky]

I'm only guessing but I would say only one , the Hyster mobile crane with its wheeled base would be a valuable asset itself ,so its all a bitza.

[Noel Burgess]

Just checked in Recovery by Brian Baxter where he says "...a run of AEC Matadors fitted with jibs talen from American built Hyster workshop cranes, one of these remaining in service into the 1950s in Sudan."

Shall we start another thread on how many Matadors constitutes a "run" : :

Noel

[Ryan]

Here's one up for sale on ebay at the moment.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/RARE-Afrikako...item5641ffa926

[chalky]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Yes, but it is a 2B1 actually.



How many of those Matadors and Federal/Trailmobiles were converted? I think those cargo boxes simply came from wrecked CMP 15-cwt trucks, or were left-overs from rebuild programmes.

H.

Looks like at least three , see pic of three Matador Hyster cranes being made with 2nd hand CMP 15cwt bodies -

http://www.flickr.com/photos/67384646@N08/6464627107/

[Les Freathy]

I must tune in here more often but been busy with you know what for a good while, anyway this is from a tiny snap shot so i hope it comes up OK
cheers
Les

[chalky]

Question -is their a thread for pics of CMPs in civvy use ?

Nice Dodge 8cwt 4x4 witn new owners -

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Thanks Les,

It's a bit small but in the background I can see rare soft-topped 3-tonners, and on the right an Indian Pattern 15-cwt GS truck, which leads me to believe this picture was taken in the South East Asian theatre of war?

H.

Originally Posted by Les Freathy

I must tune in here more often but been busy with you know what for a good while, anyway this is from a tiny snap shot so i hope it comes up OK