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Old 16-01-11, 23:49
Phil Waterman Phil Waterman is offline
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Default Update on progress

Hi All

Well as of Friday the body is basically stripped. All the fuel system including tanks and lines has been removed. The body is all ready to be lifted off down the road at my friendly heavy truck shop. When I checked before Christmas he had no work at all and the shop was empty, then we got 18" of snow now he is backed up with broken plow equipment. First heavy snow of the year finds everything that people had planned to fix last summer and forgot. So now I'm waiting for him to get caught up.

I've posted a whole bunch of photos of the process on my web site page is not on the index yet but here is the direct link http://www.canadianmilitarypattern.c...AUL%202011.htm it also includes a time lapse video of most of the work so far http://www.canadianmilitarypattern.c...d%20HQ%201.wmv

Cheers I'll post some photos directly to MLU have to downsizes them.

This week I start cleaning parts.

Cheers Phil
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Old 17-01-11, 00:22
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Hi All ...The body is all ready to be lifted off down the road at my friendly heavy truck shop. Cheers Phil
Hi Phil, Just checking progress. Did you remove the floor plates in the cab and the rear fenders? I strongly recommend you do so to prevent damage. Also, did you find the two large bolts that hold the front of the cab frame to the truck frame? I found them the hard way...

Will you be supervising the lift? Some folk think army trucks are indestructable and treat them accordingly...At the barn we used chains and straps to lift the HUP body. The chains went under the body and thru the rear wheel wells and from the front cab frame to a central point above the main hatch. A strap held both chains together and then attached to Bob's bucket. It takes some time to find the right balance point, but it works.

Good luck with the lift!
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Old 17-01-11, 03:55
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....and a source of inspiration..... I was running out of breath watching you move around......

Remember is you need bits and pieces we are only as far as UPS....

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Old 17-01-11, 21:06
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....and a source of inspiration..... I was running out of breath watching you move around......

Remember is you need bits and pieces we are only as far as UPS....

Bob
Hi Bob

Glad you enjoyed the comic relief of the time lapse photos, been having a bit of problem with the time lapse camera so I've missed a couple of days of dismantling. The pictures below will give you an indication of how far the body is stripped.

Friday afternoon ran into a small glitch, had just finished moving all the parts stripped off the HUP so far to the loft of the barn on the cargo elevator/adjustable height work bench. Got ready to send the last load up when the control switch burned out. Stupid little double throw double pole momentary switch has trapped all the parts up in the loft. I've got a new switch coming from California switch $4.30 shipping $ 7.00 so I figure I'll order a couple of spares.

Thanks for offer of help with parts much appreciated, actually I'm not expecting to need much in the way of CMP specific parts, most of what I know so far will be needed is lots of parts cleaner, paint, elbow grease, seals and gaskets.

As I said on the web site my target is to have the HUP reassembled and driving by its 66th buildday in June 66 years and going strong.

Cheers Phil
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Old 17-01-11, 20:37
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Hi Phil, Just checking progress. Did you remove the floor plates in the cab and the rear fenders? I strongly recommend you do so to prevent damage. Also, did you find the two large bolts that hold the front of the cab frame to the truck frame? .....

Good luck with the lift!
Hi Rob

Your point about hidden bolts is well taken, one of the reasons I take so many pictures, is so by looking at them in order I can see what the order is for reassembling. Strange you should mention the front bolts that actually is one of the areas which prompted a down to the frame overhaul, a fatigue crack at the left front bolt location. The picture below will show the location of these unique to HUP body mounting bolts on the bigger CMP cab bolts are really obvious.

Too check for other hidden attachments I've lifted the body up a couple of inches with hydraulic jack think I got everything, now I've put two of the big eye bolt clamps back on for the trip to the garage. Your information on lifting the body are help full. But with the truck finger lift down the road it should be a snap to lift the body straight up then drive my C60L with the drop side cargo bend under with wooden blocks to keep from crushing or bending the chock block boxes at the rear or any of the other little projections. Then it's fold up the drop sides, strap the body down and drive home.

Suspect that the hardest part will be getting the HUP into and out of my own shop. Which is the reason for the pintle hook attachment on the front of my C60L.

The 2nd photo shows the issue I have with the crack to be repaired should be easy once the body is off the truck. Plan too cut the crack lines open and drill a hole just beyond the end of the long crack should then be able to weld the crack cuts tight.

Cheers Phil
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Old 17-01-11, 22:18
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Hi Rob...The 2nd photo shows the issue I have with the crack to be repaired should be easy once the body is off the truck. Plan too cut the crack lines open and drill a hole just beyond the end of the long crack should then be able to weld the crack cuts tight. Cheers Phil
Phil, My 45 had the same crack in the same location. I also found a number of cracks on the frame - see attached photo - that you may want to check out on your HUP. Keep in mind that my HUP was very much abused...

The white circle was to remind me of the cracked "sled" or runner on the pax side of the truck. The other points included the lower central windshield frame, the point where the upright post meets the wheel well and the door frame just above the guideway. My poor truck was wracked, bent, twisted, torqued and overstressed in so many areas. Thus, the cracks.
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Old 17-01-11, 23:29
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Hi Rob

Thanks for pointing out other problem crack locations, I'll be sure to document all the problem areas I find.

My HUP had a strange crack in the middle of the roof in the forward area I think caused by the heavy forward hatch ring bouncing up and down.

The center post of the my windshield is bolted not welded. Had to replace the bolt at one point because it worked loose and then broke when I tried to tighten it.

Redoing some of my early body work may be difficult as I brazed several sheet metal cracks on the fenders back in the 80s. Now either have to cut cracks and brass out and then re-weld or get the equipment to braze again.

My HUP has had a hard life too, of lots of off road use, and I'm glad to say I had all the fun of driving it over all that rough terrain. Other than cross slope there are very few places a MB, M38, M151 can go that a HUP can not follow, Jeeps charge hills and bounce over obstacles HUPs just slow down and crawl over them.

Cheers Phil
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Old 17-01-11, 23:50
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...The center post of the my windshield is bolted not welded. Had to replace the bolt at one point because it worked loose and then broke when I tried to tighten it...Cheers Phil
My vertical/center post is bolted as well. The horizontal bar beneath the center post was split from a frontal impact. I can only imagine it was quite a hit...
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Old 30-01-11, 22:04
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Hi All

Progress has not been as dramatic now that everything that can be unbolted from the body has been removed. The body is already to come off but a recent series of snow storms has prevented hauling the truck down to the local heavy truck shop to lift the body off. Big storms means that they they have been busy fixing big highway plows. Hopefully before the next big storm hits I'll get it in and lift the body off.

So in the interim I've been working on things like replacing the dozen caged nuts that have broken. I've added more pictures and expanded the time lapse videos http://www.canadianmilitarypattern.c...AUL%202011.htm

Cheers Phil
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