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Old 02-02-11, 20:16
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Chris: Brian Asbury has CDN3 data plate sets for $110.00 (including rivets and screws). Contact him to bring a set to Acton. I got mine from him and am quite satisfied.
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Old 02-02-11, 21:59
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Hello

The civilian tires were the same as those used on the 5/4 ton at the time, but smaller.

B.F.Goodrich Silvertown (something) traction 6.50x 16 lt 6 ply tubeless.

Similar ones were/are available from Firestone, Cooper, and Goodyear.

I found that they were better traction than the NDT's and our unit had them on our M151A2.

These may also be available in 7.50 x 16 sizes but i do not know how this would affect handling and control. Don't think that they are available in 7.00x 16.

I remember the ignition toggle switch going missing on the pool vehicles and i use to carry a spare one just in case i was assigned a vehicle missing one.

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Old 03-02-11, 03:27
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As I said earlier, there were some jeeps outfitted with the civilian tires. I even saw a set over at 2VP.
I am pretty sure that once a CO's driver would do a 360 with the CO in the Jeep, the CQ/Maint would be ordered to supply the commercial tires rather than the non-directionals. They were 100 times better on the slippery roads.

One only has to look at the tread pattern left on the ground after a jeep rolls by. It is usually only a snake looking mark from the center of the tire.

I could especially understand those tires on a M151A2. They were very easy to lose control of. My personal Mutt had them for the decade or so that I owned it.
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Old 03-02-11, 21:16
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Default GPMG Mount Hole Pattern

Here is a picture of the R/Side with the GPMG Mount holes for the bracket. This jeep came from the Windsor Regt. Next task is to find a mount and a GPMG.

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Old 03-02-11, 22:42
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Default Some Differences Between the CDN 2 and 3

Here are some of the differences between the CDN 2 and 3 that Rob and the others have mentioned. It may me feel like I am back in TQ3 AFV Rec classes with these tiny but important differences.


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Old 03-02-11, 23:09
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Nice set of photos. We should start a thread showing just the differences between the two models.

Your photos show the original turn signal relay box on the Cdn2. There were very few of those left around this neck of the woods, having all been changed over to the solid state units.
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Old 04-02-11, 01:00
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Does anyone have access to or info regarding the proper camo scheme and colours as well as tac marks for mid 70's to early 80's Canadian MVs?

Specifically interested to know about mine as research has indicated a history with 1 Hussars, which is/was armd recce....

I did see a pic from their website which showed a M38A1 in service with gpmg mount, antenna mount and wire cutter. The only marking I could ascertain was the coloured CDN flag sticker on the rear bumperette.

Was wondering if stencil cut black spray painted CDN flags were used or appropriate???

Please tell me about the dash mounted blue extinguisher and details of the antenna mount and appropriate items.
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Old 04-02-11, 01:26
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Ask and you shall receive:


Here is a side view of my jeep showing the cam pattern.



The black stencilled cdn flag was often used. It was not by the book mind you. It was usually because nobody bothered to order the flags. As well, you ended up having to cam up any color decals when you went to the field, so the red flags would just add two more things you had to tend to.

I tried to install the flags on my MLVW when I was with the artillery, but my MWO would not approve of it.

The extinguisher was a 5 lb Ansul brand dry chem extinguisher. In the 70s you could find them in red or blue. By the 80s only the blue ones remained. There was a mod to switch the extinguisher's location with the SMG C1. A search on this forum should find you a copy...I believe Derk Derin posted it in the last year.

Antenna mounts were on top of the spare tire carrier thru most of the 70s. By 1980, most were changed over to the corner mount. The top mount put a lot of stress on the back wall of the jeep. Prior to 1980, your militia Jeep would have had the C42, after that date they went to the 524 set. Once it made it to Borden, it likely had no radios.
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Old 04-02-11, 01:26
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Does anyone have access to or info regarding the proper camo scheme and colours as well as tac marks for mid 70's to early 80's Canadian MVs?

Specifically interested to know about mine as research has indicated a history with 1 Hussars, which is/was armd recce....

I did see a pic from their website which showed a M38A1 in service with gpmg mount, antenna mount and wire cutter. The only marking I could ascertain was the coloured CDN flag sticker on the rear bumperette.

Was wondering if stencil cut black spray painted CDN flags were used or appropriate???

Please tell me about the dash mounted blue extinguisher and details of the antenna mount and appropriate items.
Armoured Acorn is a good website for examples of TAC Signs and Markings. Unfortunately, his Cam Patterns are all based on Armoured Vehicles, and his paint codes are subject to debate. TAC Signs can be really hit or miss. There is a post on here somewhere showing the size and location for the TAC Signs. IMO, the regulation TAC Sign size is much larger than the ones i'm used to seeing.

If Rob Love is nice enough, he might post up some snaps of his 38A1, as its text book 3 Color Cam. Its going to be the basis for my Cam Pattern although i'm going to (admittedly wrong) invert the locations of the Light Green and Olive Drab on my 151 as most of the 151s ive seen seem to have more Light Green and less OD (if any OD at all).

As for the flags, i've seen examples of both. I must admit, personally prefer the Color Decal. It typifies the era IMO. Besides, it will lessen people asking if my rig is American The blacked out painted Flag is more of a current era marking. I managed to find the correct Decals on EBay, so I grabbed a pair for a princely sum of $4 shipped.

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Old 04-02-11, 01:27
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Apparently Rob posted 10 seconds before I did
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Old 04-02-11, 01:41
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Apparently Rob posted 10 seconds before I did
Snooze, you lose. By the way, those decals are available in the system under NSN 7690-21-868-2606. Your tool crib should have them for installation on the current DND vehicles.
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