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Old 09-02-11, 01:36
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Chris,

Little CFR update now that I have access to the better server:

Holding Unit History

As of 01-FEB-11

CFR No Departure Arrival HUIC Unit
08669* 06-May-83 04-Sep-79 0113* CFB Borden
08669* 04-Sep-79 01-Jan-70 0131* CFB LONDON
Modification History

As of 01-FEB-11

Modification History of CFR : 08669

Modification No Modification Complete Date Completed
30010000CF003* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION YES
30100000CF014* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION NO
30104000CF001* NO INFORMATION AVAILABLE ON THIS MODIFICATION NO

Work Order Details

As of 01-FEB-11
CFR Number : 08669
Format Work Order Number SS Date Completed CIN HUIC Usage Qty Parts ($) Rebuild
5 L01086 29-Sep-78 551* 5009* 25814 1 0 NO
5 L05964 30-Nov-77 551* 2208* 0 1 0 NO
5 L05460 29-Aug-77 551* 5009* 22529 1 325 NO
5 L03992 30-Jun-77 551* 2208* 0 1 0 NO
5 L03182 14-Mar-77 551* 2208* 0 1 0 NO
5 L02883 21-Feb-77 551* 2208* 0 1 0 NO

Looking deep into the Maint records, it appears that this 38A1 actually belonged to 1 Hussars in London prior to going to Borden. Sadly, it appears much of the maint info was never entered, as i'm sure there was plenty more work and mods done to it prior to disposal. The disposal date was actually 9 Sept 88, so this made it one of the last to go to auction.

UPDATE: I bet these guys would be happy to see you turn it back into an Armd Recce Jeep that it most likely once was: http://www.firsthussars.ca/the-museum

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I just recently aquired the used vehicle information package on this one and note a slight discrepancy from your data Scotty, wondering if you may shed some light on it. It appears that my jeep was registered on 3 June 1988 by the civilian owner.

Your records indicate disposal 9 Sept 88. Would it be possible that the disposal records take a bit of time to be updated before being struck off of service following auction???
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Old 09-02-11, 03:31
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I just recently aquired the used vehicle information package on this one and note a slight discrepancy from your data Scotty, wondering if you may shed some light on it. It appears that my jeep was registered on 3 June 1988 by the civilian owner.

Your records indicate disposal 9 Sept 88. Would it be possible that the disposal records take a bit of time to be updated before being struck off of service following auction???
Its not my data Chris

I wouldn't get too concerned about the disposal date. Things like date purchased, date disposed and price sold for, are often generic for a good chunk of the fleet. Almost all of the info on these things was entered in the EDR Database years after they were used and sold. It still amazes me that they even took the time to enter it after the fact, especially the maintenance and mod info. In the case of yours though, the info was very sparse compared to most.
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Old 09-02-11, 19:04
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It still amazes me that they even took the time to enter it after the fact, especially the maintenance and mod info. In the case of yours though, the info was very sparse compared to most.
Sounds to me like entering all the data may have been a choice job or punishment for some wayward, under-employed PATs!
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Old 09-02-11, 19:32
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My memories of the paperwork in the early 80s was that things could be pretty hit or miss. With the introduction of time accounting in the 80s, things got a bit better overall, but still way too much latitude for problems. By the 90s, you would still find hard copy work orders lost in the filing cabinets under the completely wrong headings. Even in the last few years, you could order all kinds of things on the hard copy parts request, but only enter a portion of that into the computer.

The newest system is said to tie between the supply side, the transport side, and the maintenance side. If it works out, the collectors 30 years down the road may be able to access every last task and part that were charged against their collectible G wagon or LSVW.

Yes, it is amazing that we can access all this info on vehicles disposed of 25 years ago. But the army does run on paperwork, and always did things in triplicate.
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Old 10-02-11, 00:39
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Thanks Scotty, Rob. Scotty, I didn't lierally mean your data, guess I should have said the data researched and found by yourself. I appreciate the info and the work involved

I figured that even as Rob suggests, the army runs on paperwork but was always under the misguided concept that with all the t crossing and i dotting involved, that accuracy would have been the norm.... As Mike suggests, it may have been a pile of backlogged paperwork that a clerk had the tedious task of entering into the system. Or, as Scotty pointed out a sum of vehicles were lumped together.
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1966 M274A2 Mule BMY USMC
1958 M274 Mule Willys US Army
1970 M38A1 CDN3 70-08715 1 CSR
1943 Converto Airborne Trailer
1983 M1009 CUCV
1957 Triumph TRW 500cc

RT-524, PRC-77s,
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