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Old 31-03-11, 21:51
eddy8men eddy8men is offline
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hey man if it's green and puts a smile on your face just go with it. we ain't professionals we're enthusiasts doing what we can.
the bottom line is this, all the complete original vehicles are long gone or in museums the only way to obtain original kit is often to take it from another vehicle which then renders that one less complete. don't get me wrong i'd love to find a wharehouse full to the rafters with carrier spares but that's not likely, just do the best that you can and try to enjoy it and just remember if it all gets too much and you lose interest in the hobby you could always buy a jeep

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Old 31-03-11, 22:33
Hans Mulder Hans Mulder is offline
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If you have a T16 axle grafted onto the back of your regular UC then the 'none originality' is plain to see, however one from another carrier of the correct type would pass with flying colours and yet wouldn't be the original one fitted to your vehicle. Because of this grey, I expect the detail of the above regulations, say 'of the original type' or some such weasel words!
As the owner of a frankencarrier with a T16 axle and more mods, I'm more of a "50ft test" fan: Is it a MV? Does it look like a MV from 50ft? Does it operate more or less the way an MV is supposed to?

Rivet counting is fun if someone is trying to pass off a replica or reproduction as the real thing, but if it is the real thing and has been resurrected from a butchered state to running condition, I'm not going to count rivets or note the lack of a period fire extinguisher or the non-original cloth used to cover the seats. Think of your MV more as living history: whatever it takes to make it "presentable" and running benefits more people than if it is rusting away in the yard pending the find of an original light or factory seat or NOS gauges.

When I got my frankencarrier I took it out as is for Remembrance Day. Despite its configuration two vets, (one WW2 NW Europe, one Korean War) both instantly recognized it for what it was and enjoyed every minute riding on it. While it does not at present meet my own test, it sure passed their test.
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Old 31-03-11, 23:32
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Everyone has their own individual opinion, taste and financial status.
As pointed out by previous postings, there is a vast array of ideas as to what is right or wrong etc.
Bottom line, enjoy what you do to the best of your ability.
I think that overall, the main issue here is in regard to those who pass off, or try to pass off, items that are less than 100% authentic. This is nothing new.. It has been done for centuries, passing off fakes for the real deal.
If a fellow is happy with his Jeep, carrier or tank, so be it. Just be upfront when you go to sell it and you'll never go wrong...
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Old 01-04-11, 18:07
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I am restoring a 42 WLC It is now ready for paint .I was fortunate to be able to do it with all original parts This is very important because with motorcycles if you are stopped by a traffic police and the numbers don't match they can keep the bike till they can prove that it is not stolen parts . I will be happy with my carriers, that they will have some oiriginal numbers on them and the parts will be from original or close to original parts .That way they won't be sitting beside another carrier with the same numbers on them and only a few will know the difference in what was not original . My neighbour is old and has been restoring a modle T Ford .He now wants to sell it but to a guy that knows about the T's it is built from parts 1918-1927 .Someone will buy it and have a great time with it as long as it works .My 1928 Modle A Ford has the original spare tire but the other ones have been changed once so there is very few things that are original . We will have more of a problem putting on proper decals as to where it was in the army .
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Old 01-04-11, 21:34
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I was discussing this thread with another collector today, he rarely reads this forum but is quite prolific on others, he pointed me to a recent HMVF Thread ( i am already registered on there) might i surgest all concerned parties read it. it backs up one of my recent comments about DVLA watching the web !

http://hmvf.co.uk/forumvb/showthread...-what-you-post!
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Old 01-04-11, 21:54
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This is where I am at. Have you ever gone into one so far?
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Old 01-04-11, 22:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynn Eades View Post
This is where I am at. Have you ever gone into one so far?
Holy S**T batman ! now thats a strip down.
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Morris C8
Ford GPW jeep 1945
Morris 1000 (ex mil)
SAS LSV
Harley Davidson MT 350 motor cycle
Universal carrier MK 1*1943 Ronson (under restoration)
Universal carrier MK 2* 1944 (Puddle Jumper HSK 345)
Ferret MK 1/1 1956
Ferret MK 2/4 1958
CVR(T) Scorpion
432 MK2
Daimler MK1 armoured car 1943
(winner best wheeled armour W&P show 2011)
Daimler Dingo MK2 1944 (awaiting restoration, aquired 11/12/2011)
Fordson WOT 3 D 1940 (awaiting restoration )
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Old 02-04-11, 05:00
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Wow Lynn, and I thought I had a lot of work I had to do
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