ILTIS mystery body hole

Scott Bentley · #1 10-05-11, 17:49

Not sure if any of this will answer your question, but I took some pics of a TCCCS RT-522 Installation installed in a G-Wagon. Its a Single IKEE, but really, other than a Second Radio and AMU, the install parts are essentially the same.

One can surmise that in all reality, the electronic parts should have been the same in an Iltis, and really, the install itself should have been very similar. Keep in mind, the G-Wagon is a fully enclosed "hard top" vehicle, so by rights, any Comms related "Ports" that need to be hard mounted outside will have been done to it.

Rad A installed in Doghouse with the NAU mounted on top. I'll ask one of the TCCCS literate guys what the "V1" Port is for as it is 1.5" OD. I suspect it is for an Amp:

I may copy the way these are locked on my own Radios:

Radio Interface Panel with Power Switch. Kinda like a uber-modern version of the old Bendix Connection. Don't get excited, those plugs are all only 1.25" OD

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Control Indicator or "CI" mounted on the Dash, you can also see the new DAGR GPS Holder over on the A Pillar:

Another angle on the CI:

AMU on the Back Corner:

New Style Single Pin Slave Cable Outlet:

Lastly, for those of you guys who like to stencil stuff, there is an example of how the vehicle tools are marked (notice that the numbers don't match, and the neither are the same as the CFR on the truck

):

Again, not sure if any of this helps in your quest, but as you can see, there aren't really any 2" Plugs on any of the TCCCS kit that go to the outside of the vehicle.

Scott Bentley · #2 10-05-11, 21:11

Apparently i'll start eating some Crow now.

Through my own research of Combat Camera, I found a picture of the "Plug".

The hole is from an External Power Cable for the "new" IKEE:
The Hi-Res is here: http://www.combatcamera.forces.gc.ca...hotos&download

A convoy of Iltis vehicles prepare to leave Camp Courcelette in Bihac, Bosnia-Herzgovina in the early morning fog. Personnel from the Royal Canadian Dragoons Battle Group (RCD BG) were on their way to conduct an early morning operation. There are currently 1220 Canadians enforcing the peace in Bosnia-Herzegovina as part of NATO's Stabilization Force.
Photo:Warrant Officer Peter Veldhuizen Canadian Forces Combat Camera

That is a ton of collateral damage for this little plug:

Although not a part of the Comms Install itself, this is an external plug to connect to the IKEE on the inside:

As a side note Mont, one of the Iltis in the pic is probably yours as that was the Roto it was part of based on our off-line discussions.

Marc Montgomery · #3 11-05-11, 02:00

AHA! very cool photos! I am curious, the little plug on the G-wagen appears to have a smaller squarish plate than the one on the iltis..which is clearly larger and rectangular.. (?!?!?)

so what would that plug be connected to on the inside? is it a direct hookup to something..or cabled to something

Scotty thanks for all your help!

BTW- notice on the first jeep theres a tube(?) appears to exit the body at the back..I wonder what that was

Scott Bentley · #4 11-05-11, 02:17

Marc,

As noted in the pics above, that Plug is connected to the Power Supply on the inside. No idea if it's for taking on or providing power out. Dunno, never seen it used.

No idea why they butchered the body to install a 15mm Plug. Stranger things have happened. Good luck finding one though. With the TCCCS having all sorts of voodoo crypto abilities built in, I doubt they will ever see the light of day outside of the CF (through official channels) which IMO, makes trying to mimic the Comms system an exercise in futility.

Marc Montgomery · #5 11-05-11, 03:17

well, no intention of attempting a tics system..however, wouldnt mind getting the right plug for the hole...un-officially if need be ;-)

you can see the screw holes if you look closely indicating a very rectangular plate- I"ll have to get exact measurements at end of May

here's a slightly better photo

paul53 · #6 11-05-11, 05:40

Marc, have a look...

I remembered seeing that hole somewhere or what might belonged there back in the day and here is that picture I've been looking for. If this is correct or not I don't know but it looks to fit ok.

Paul

Marc Montgomery · #7 11-05-11, 13:02

hey, thanks for the photo Paul ! but, now that is interesting..and confusing...

The fixture on Scotts photo of Iltis in theatre, is the right size, rectangular shape and location to match the holes in my and other Iltis, and the "connector" resembles the comms outlet on the G-wagen
BUT the Gwagen fixture mounting plate does not seem to match, being smaller and square

Paul's slave outlet mounting plate also has the right shape, size, and location: it goes with what Scotty's initial theory was..BUT, on the other hand, the photo of the jeep in theatre clearly is not a slave outlet.

so..it seems narrowed down...could it be there were/are different comms fixture suppliers and the "older" ones had larget backing plates..

or- some were modified for slave fixtures, others for comms..

Is there a CFTO on this?

I guess I could stick a dummy slave outlet there but anybody know someone who served in Bosnia, perhaps comms, perhaps mechanic,, or was of the 80's era and might know or remember?