Veh radio installations

[Jon Skagfeld]

At what point did the fol terminologies become applicable?

Radio Adapter Kit (RAK)

Installation Kit Electronic Equipment (IKEE)

For post-war mil vehs, can anyone tell me which veh in which time frame would have which acronym applied?

M38
M38A1
M38A1CDN2
M38A1CDN3
Chev 5/4
CUCV
CJ7
LSVW
MLVW
Iltis
GWagen
Milcots

Perhaps, with TCCCS, that was the turning point?

[Scott Bentley]

Jon,
I didn't join the CF until the early 90s, so I can't speak for the earlier timeframes like some of the other fossils around here , but I certainly heard the term "RAK" used well prior to the TCCCS, and it has continued since even if its slang now. Actually heard it yesterday while the "Toaster Techs" were working on the Comms in the back of a G-Wagon.

If I can remember, i'll look it up on the EDR. For the M38A1 until at least the MLVW, I still saw IKEE listed in the ECCs. I never really payed any attention to the newer stuff, but could look.

Is it possible that both of those terms were used concurrently? I was under the impression that the IKEE was the Power Supply Bendix from the Batteries (Veh/Mat Techs) while the RAK was the Adapters and Sub-Trays required to install the Radios (Rad Techs). Not sure, just a passing thought.

Scotty

[Jon Skagfeld]

Scott: Ya know, I think you may be correct about concurrent reference to both terms.

I've used both all along, with the niggling background thought..."Which term is correct for this era?"

Any new pics of the MUTT? Liked the pair in the driveway!

How's my goodie box doing?. Ready to do RAK/IKEE...whatever.

[maple_leaf_eh]

The summer (1979) I taught Driving and Maintenance (D&M) on M38A1 CDN 2 and 3 Jeeps at the militia Armoury, another group of guys learned Comms in Valcartier. Three yrs before I had learned on C42 and PRC510 radios. These guys learned on RT524 and PRC25 radios. The first time I saw a PRC25 was at the Form Up Point when I met the guys who were going into an OP with me! The installation of new radios continued through 79 and 80. Within one training year we'd learned how crappy the C42s were and how much their performance was limiting our "tactical" abilities. We had 5/4 CPs with the aluminum shelving, which were model year 1976 or 77. I don't remember if we had C42s in them, but I do remember RT524s.

[Scott Bentley]

Originally Posted by armybuck041

I didn't join the CF until the early 90s, so I can't speak for the earlier timeframes like some of the other fossils around here

Originally Posted by maple_leaf_eh

The summer (1979) I taught Driving and Maintenance (D&M) on M38A1 CDN 2 and 3 Jeeps at the militia Armoury........

Gotta love MLU

[rob love]

I had only heard of the IKEE term during my service. The TCCCs came out a year or two before I retired, so I did not pick up on the terminology then.

Is it possible IKEE was more of a EME term, while RAKs was a sig term?

[Jon Skagfeld]

Originally Posted by maple_leaf_eh

The summer (1979) I taught Driving and Maintenance (D&M) on M38A1 CDN 2 and 3 Jeeps at the militia Armoury, another group of guys learned Comms in Valcartier. Three yrs before I had learned on C42 and PRC510 radios. These guys learned on RT524 and PRC25 radios. The first time I saw a PRC25 was at the Form Up Point when I met the guys who were going into an OP with me! The installation of new radios continued through 79 and 80. Within one training year we'd learned how crappy the C42s were and how much their performance was limiting our "tactical" abilities. We had 5/4 CPs with the aluminum shelving, which were model year 1976 or 77. I don't remember if we had C42s in them, but I do remember RT524s.

Terry: Our Chev 5/4 (76-29264) definitely had C42s on initial issue; within a year, RT 524s were issued. (This was a Reserve unit).

Just can't remember whether the term RAK or IKEE was used....and my Line Serial at the time was Bn Sig O!

[Scott Bentley]

Jon,

IKEE was still a term used with the Iltis and Bison VRC-12 Installations. The Doc below references that the IKEE is installed by Maint Pers.

I'm having a look around for the term RAK, but am coming up empty, VRC-12 and TCCCS....

[Scott Bentley]

Hmm,

Think I might have a definitive answer for you.

The Doc below from 2002 regarding the TCCCS install into an Iltis refers to both IKEE and AKEE (Adaptor Kit, Electronic Eqpt), but no RAK.

I'm thinking RAK is the older of the two (IKEE and RAK).

[Scott Bentley]

Sorry... the Doc this time