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Old 23-06-11, 22:35
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The most available vehicles to tow it at the time were three-tonners, but it is clear they were outside the 'comfort zone'.

These particular images show a cab 12 C60L in towing trails at Monegeeta (the army's proving ground). The carrier on the trailer was loaded to a specific weight with added track sections dumped in the back. The trailer certainly took charge in the latter part of the test.

Imagine driving the towing vehicle - a speed limit that must have been imposed (and you couldn't go fast on a flat road if you wanted to) there would have been restricted rear vision. Making a turn would have been hazardous, let alone an emergency stop.

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I think it might very well have been towed by the Cab 12 (being a Ford!). These pics came off this forum:
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Old 23-06-11, 22:52
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Imagine driving the towing vehicle - a speed limit that must have been imposed (and you couldn't go fast on a flat road if you wanted to) there would have been restricted rear vision. Making a turn would have been hazardous, let alone an emergency stop.
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Having the truck loaded with ballast would help a bit, at least it might stop the trailer lifting the rear of the truck off the ground.

There was an occurence once, where an Army Bedford MK 4x4 4 tonner towing a tandem axle tiltbed trailer with a Fox armoured car on it, lost it in a big way when the trailer took over, it ended up that the trailer rotated around the towing eye, wiping the Fox off the bed (chain restraints broke), leaving the truck standing with trailer still attached, but upside down. I am sure the Bedford would have been unladen. Scary !
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Old 24-06-11, 01:12
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Hi Richard

If you look at the carrier... that's the one with the extra ballast, not the truck!

EDIT: The trailer with the cab 12 is a 6 ton recovery trailer as you will have noted. Braking tests were carried out at 10mph, 20mph and 30mph and they noted a transfer of weight to the front wheels of the truck.

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Having the truck loaded with ballast would help a bit, at least it might stop the trailer lifting the rear of the truck off the ground.

There was an occurence once, where an Army Bedford MK 4x4 4 tonner towing a tandem axle tiltbed trailer with a Fox armoured car on it, lost it in a big way when the trailer took over, it ended up that the trailer rotated around the towing eye, wiping the Fox off the bed (chain restraints broke), leaving the truck standing with trailer still attached, but upside down. I am sure the Bedford would have been unladen. Scary !
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Old 24-06-11, 03:24
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At the Carrier year at Corowa.. A 13 cab blitz had a carrier behind on a trailer..they followed us back from the airport ..I have pics to prove it ..will post here soon .

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Old 24-06-11, 08:02
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Hi Guys,
we have one of these in the museum. Very heavy to tow! Had it behind our Inter 6x6 and couldnt get above about 30Km/hr. The carrier on it doesnt have any internals yet so weight wasnt the problem.
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Old 24-06-11, 08:51
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These 6 wheel trailers are called 7.5ton light recovery. i have owned 3 over the years. they are not uncommon in the UK. i know where there are 2 still laying on farms. There is somee great footage on how they are used on an old British Army recovery training film from the war, it shows the troops winching a carrier on the back of the trailer.
There were 3 differet marks all with variations on the brakes.
I my view they are not worth the effort of towing one, best place for one is in a museum .
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Old 24-06-11, 10:55
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We are working on one of the single axle trailers at the moment.. very very rusty though as it was recovered from a sea side environment.. I would love to see some detailed photos of the brake mechaism etc and the hydrolic pivot set up as well.

The mudgaurds are extras I think as no information I have found shows mud guards.

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Old 23-06-11, 22:55
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But these are not similar trailers! The second pic is a British trailer and has six wheels! There was one for sale in the UK last year but the reserve was not met. I was interested but have nothing to tow it with. I saved the pics from Ebay. This trailer is also less wide and will probably be road legal.

Carrier Recovery Trailer 1.jpg Carrier Recovery Trailer 3.jpg Carrier Recovery Trailer 4.jpg

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Old 23-06-11, 23:15
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But these are not similar trailers! The second pic is a British trailer and has six wheels! There was one for sale in the UK last year but the reserve was not met. I was interested but have nothing to tow it with. I saved the pics from Ebay. This trailer is also less wide and will probably be road legal.
Hi Marc,

That is the 7 1/2 ton recovery trailer, originally designed for Light Tanks as well as Carriers. Road speed on lorries in those days was 20 MPH, but descending hills would have been slow. I have a feeling that brake issues would have to be dealt with if thinking of using one of these nowadays. Those used behind the Breakdown Gantry lorries, would have had vacuum brakes, only on the rear two axles, I think.
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Old 23-06-11, 23:27
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Hi Richard,

Probably a good thing then that I passed on it! I recently restored a DAF trailer from 1977 and use it to transport the Carrier, Dingo and 6 Pr.


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