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Old 27-11-11, 22:13
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Default Fall Clean Up Time

Bob was first off the mark on Saturday morning. He took his wife's SUV to the local tire shop to get the tires rebalanced. I arrived shortly after he took off and got to work on a project from home - rebuilding my B&D WorkMate table top.

Grant was taking care of business. Later that morning, Bob arrived at the barn and stored some wheels that were taking up space inside the barn. Other items were removed with a view to giving us some room to move over the winter. This will be an ongoing process, but should result in some more elbow room. On the way to lunch we stopped in to pick up some steel from a local distributor. Bob is going to make a set of metal wheel ramps to replace the rotting wooden ramps as the old ramps cause too much excitement when used.

After lunch, I assembled parts for my "Sunshine" roof hatch repair. We take advantage of a local machine shop to do custom work that we are too clumsy to do. In this case, I had our friend rebuild one of my hatch roller arms. A new step rivet and a brass roller bar were machined and then attached to the arm. The quality of work was outstanding.

Later I found the two sections to my '45 HUP partition wall. Both are welded steel frames onto which plywood panels are mounted. The plywood is usually held on by flat pan head slotted 1/4 inch/20 screws that attach to "T" nuts. The "T" nuts were used to keep the profile of the wall somewhat smooth as it was covered with a green liner. After the quick tour of the partition, I put the lower portion in the back of the HUP.

Later, Bob fired up the tractor. We towed another tractor to its winter storage location and then hitched up his roto-tiller attachment. Bob gave his garden the once over and then worked the tiller over the rough part of the road to the barn.

After that fun, we detached the roto-tiller and hooked up the wood splitter. On the way to the wood pile, we loaded the bucket with M37 parts. The parts were off-loaded to my 3/4 ton SMP trailer and then were tarped for the winter.

Bob split wood for the remainder of the afternoon, and I headed back to Ottawa early to finish up my domestic "to do" list.

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1 - Vestiges of our last snow day
2 - Roto-tiller ready
3 - Hatch cover roller arms - the first arm has the new ball and rivet
4 - Replacement roller arm bushings and support
5 - HUP lower partition wall test fit
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Old 06-12-11, 18:36
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Default Update on the barn......

Well things have been quiet around the barn and I am back home.

Had a heart attack on Wed. and decided to drive myself in to the hospitsal after work..... did my Xmas shopping on the way over.

Got an angioplasty yesterday and now back home with a 3/16 scar on my wrist. will need to follow up for further restrictions but should be in the barn this weekend.

Amazing what the medical profession can do today.

Just one word of caution to you macho guys....... if you have massive heartburn or any other pain in your chest....... don't be silly and risk being a ninny and go to the hospital.... at worst they will send you home red faced with a bottle of antacid..... at best they will look after you pronto.

You should see the face of the receptionist when I casually walked in the ER and answered to the polite question.... How can we help you...? I think I am having a heart attack...... then the dust flew......

So diet, follow up, actively pursuing my CMP hobby and we'll be fine.

I had a angioplasty 25 years ago...... this one should last 20 years and the next one 15..... that should give me time to work on my trucks.

Life is sweet....!!!

Bouncing Bob
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Old 06-12-11, 18:53
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Well things have been quiet around the barn and I am back home. Had a heart attack on Wed....Life is sweet....!!!Bouncing Bob
I'm impressed that the doctors prescribed CMP therapy. See you Saturday.
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Old 07-12-11, 18:03
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Default Algonquin College hobbyist machine shop course February 2012

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After lunch, I assembled parts for my "Sunshine" roof hatch repair. We take advantage of a local machine shop to do custom work that we are too clumsy to do. In this case, I had our friend rebuild one of my hatch roller arms. A new step rivet and a brass roller bar were machined and then attached to the arm. The quality of work was outstanding.
The Hammond crew may be interested in taking the Hobbyist Machine Shop course at Algonquin College. I took this course last year, and will most likely take it again this February. You get to learn on the lathe; milling machines; grinders; press, etc.... The instructor last year was great........

The course is very unstructured. Many of the students are in the day machinist program, and are working on class projects. Others are the full range of beginners to seasoned machine shop types, working on personal projects. A great way to learn how to make things on the lathe, such as the brass ends on your roof hatch roller arms. In fact, you could get into the manufacture of reproduction parts for trade/swap.......

I finally have my small 3 in 1 combination lathe/mill/drill set up at home. I know Bob has a nice commercial lathe at the barn. Lots of potential with that machine. Great for making reproduction bolts and various fittings.

ref http://xweb.algonquincollege.com/woo...spx?id=MAC0001
HOBBYIST MACHINE SHOP
Course: MAC0001

For the Machine Shop handy-man and handy-woman hobbyist, students can construct their own projects with a helpful instructor to assist in hints and strategies. Students must provide their own blueprints, supply their own material, and projects must be kept to a minimal size. The College provides all layout tools, drill presses, lathes and milling machines. Students may bring their own cutting tools, if desired. Please note that all students must supply their own safety glasses and safety footwear which MUST be worn in shop at all times. Students must have basic machine shop experience.

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Old 07-12-11, 18:35
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Default Interesting......

Hi Stuart

Sounds interesting ..... just to have access to the equipment..... not to mention the network that can be developed with other more skillful individuals.

I have a small metal lathe in the basement...... circa 1938 sold by Ogilvie store on Rideau....... 6" Atlas with all the screw cutting attachements..... set up with a variable speed DC motor. ...... But I am not to good at working on it. Been practicing using solid plastic and nylon blanks from Canus plastic.

Getting some basic instructions from the course would be wonderful.

I need to fabricate the tie downs for the leather straps on the 2B1..... they are made of brass and look like miniature capstan winch drum.

Will need to check what the hours of the course are and how they fit with my commute.

Thanks for the suggestion.

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Old 07-12-11, 19:09
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Default More on machine shop course

Bob,
I found it well worth the cost and the time. Good to learn on various machines. I also needed the instruction on the whys and hows of shop safety using such equipment. It is very easy to get injured with lathes and mills. Better to be yelled at by a skilled instructor before things happen, than yelled at by the ambulance crew..........

While in university, I had worked in structural steel shops. Having seen what can happen, I have a healthy respect for safe operations. There were a lot of fellows with missing fingers..........

When I took the course, I did not have a project lined up, so just worked on a tack hammer. That project gets you to do a lot of processes on the lathe and mill. I can see on the CMP, there are a lot of fittings and parts that were most likely made on a lathe.

If I take the course, I will most likely make a mount for a lathe cutting tool. I will also make some lathe keys and other things that I need for the lathe. I am interested in tool making. On the Iltis, there are a few speciality tools needed for repairs. One is a device for removal of the wheel bearings, which is a job I need to do on some salvage hubs. I prefer to do it correctly, rather than beat the bearings out..........

Anyways, check out the dates and times and see if they work for you. It would be nice to get a few ROTters in the course.....

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Old 19-12-11, 03:11
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It has been an interesting few weeks to say the least. Bob was down but not out with his ticker acting up, Guy had some parts of his leg replaced, and my knees decided to pack it in for a few weeks. I am not sure how Grant has been faring, as I saw him once these past weeks. Bob seems to be doing quite well, Guy is on the mend and my knees have improved. So much for the walking wounded.

Barn wise, Grant moved his truck out of the barn and into its winter storage shed. Bob moved the trusty tractor into the barn. We cleaned up around and in the barn so that we could actually work in the barn now that the cold weather is upon us. Bob and Grant nailed together a new wood crib to replace the large crib that fed Lucifer. Lucifer's feed was changed from a fiber (wood) centric diet to a fat (oil) centric diet. The wood starts the fire going, and the oil keeps us nice and warm.

When my knees allowed, I trekked to the barn to work on some of the Pilot HUP parts. Anything that could fit into the cabinet sandblaster got cleaned up nicely. This past Saturday was very quiet with Bob out Christmas shopping and Grant at work. Guy was out to show off his new cane, and my knees have returned to a less sensitive state. The weather was quite nippy (-10 oC), so I fired up Lucifer.

The rest of Saturday was spent cleaning dirt out of one of the support channels that run the width of the rear compartment by the rear door. With the aid of an air nozzle and a trusty Shop-Vac, I managed to clean out years of sand, gravel and cement that had accumulated. The bad news was that the cleaning exposed where the cement reacted with the metal and moisture to eat a hole in the channel. This hole did not show up when I did the frame off sandblasting of the truck. After some poking and prodding, a good sized lump of cement came away with a good chunk of rusted metal. I'm not much for upside down welding, so I think I will line the hole with metal glue and press a metal plate over it. The underneath part will be sprayed with rocker panel coating. The final task of the day was to remove two metal bars that had been welded to the rear of the compartment. These bars were welded to the tabs that hold the two wall mounted bucket seats in the HUP.

Once that fun was completed, I took the HUP for a run over the snow covered trail. The braking and clutching action reminded me that the knees were still a bit sensitive, so the joy ride was called off and I returned the HUP to its shelter. Unfortunately, I had to head home early so that the missus could get to work early - this being the busy time of year for retailers.

Hopefully, Bob and Grant can fill in some of the blanks over the past few weeks.

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1 - Sandblasting fodder
2 - The boys playing "crib"
3 - The barn - a study in winter
4 - HUP repair site
5 - The hole in the channel
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Old 19-12-11, 03:19
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Default Was cool on Sunday.....

....and no heat......

Lucifer needed bypass surgery...... the oil line got plugged...... pipe thread for the line going through the firebox had the thread stripped so we invented a new better way of dripping oil into the fire....... took most of the day but it is now loaded up ready to be fired on my next day off.

Moved another crib full of firewood to the house ready for onloading into the basement chute.

Grant and I went for breaky at the restaurant only to run into some folks I work with at the office...... funny she didn't recognise me at first ... not wearing my usual suit and tie.

Ran out of time and energy but had enough to bring in the Xmas tree and let it thaw out a bit before decorating this week.

Another weekend gone. Back to the salt mines tomorrow.

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Old 19-12-11, 04:56
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Yesterday was an exercise in making the basement of the house stink by painting the driveshafts. not worthy of photos.

They are now sitting on the floor next to the completed transfer case. 4 of the 6 bearings and races needed replacing along with all input/output seals and speedi-sleeves on the yokes. The previous owners had a love of RTV sealant and used it in place of all gaskets when they put the case together. The lack of gaskets made most bearing adjustments too tight, the front drive hardly turned. I now understand why the manual advises to keep the shims for each cap together as a starting point for adjustments. It makes life much easier if you work from a "too thick" shim pack to "just right" rather than the other way round - I didn't understand how much easier until after doing the first adjustment the hard way. Also after the fact, read the manual for the C60X and realized they had a different (better?) procedure - rather than trial and error they tell you to place the adjustment cap onto the shaft and bearing (no shims) and measure the gap between the cap and the housing. Also, it is surprising the difference in feel having the seals rubbing on the shafts makes. The manual is right that bearing adjustments should be done without seals in place to be able to feel for drag and free play.

One of today's tasks was working on repairing my hedge trimmer. It isn't needed right now but on the last hedge for the year (had to finish with an electric trimmer - don't want to do any more of that) it sheared the driveshaft at a weld just after the centrifugal clutch. The stub of the shaft remained threaded into the clutch drum located down a well in the housing that made gripping the stub next to impossible. I used our tested technique of welding a nut on to provide a grip. I was nervous about the heat from the weld cooking the seal and lube in the bearing so had an air line ready to speed the cooling after welding. Once the nut was welded and cooled, it was a fairly simple matter to jam the clutch drum in the housing and put a socket on the nut to back out the nut and stub. The same technique has worked on multiple bolts sheared flush (including throttle bellcrank studs corroded/frozen into the block). Now to buy a new driveshaft and put it in place.
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