New Project 1940 C15 2WD

acmva · #1 04-01-12, 18:23

Hi Guys,

My name is Bob McWilliam. I'm new to the forum, and my computer skills are limited, but I have started the restoration of my 1940 C1500 and in need of some advise to find some parts I require.

Where can I find parts like a rad cap and the part that the cap attached to on the rad? My original rad where the cap screws on is rusted out.

Inst panel glass?

Its a long list I'm afraid, Some photos attached. Any help on sourcing parts would be fantastic.

Alex Blair (RIP) · #2 04-01-12, 19:19

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Originally Posted by acmva

Hi Guys,

My name is Bob McWilliam. I'm new to the forum, and my computer skills are limited, but I have started the restoration of my 1940 C1500 and in need of some advise to find some parts I require.

Where can I find parts like a rad cap and the part that the cap attached to on the rad? My original rad where the cap screws on is rusted out.

Inst panel glass?

Its a long list I'm afraid, Some photos attached. Any help on sourcing parts would be fantastic.

Hi Bob..
Welcome to the forum..Brad Mills in Truro(I believe that he is a Nissan Dealer in Truro) knows all about CMP vehicles..That is what you have,,Canadian Military Pattern vehicle.
Get your self some manuals..a copy of the Maintenance and Parts manuals are a must..
Grant Bowker makes great reprints..he is on this forum..
and reasonable..

Here are the manuals you need..

#3: 300+ pages MB-C2 Maintenance Manual, for GM CMP vehicles. 15 cwt 4x2, 15 cwt. 4x4, 30 cwt 4x4, 3 ton 4x4 HU 4x4, F.A.T. 4x4. Sept. 1943
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#3A 300+ pages GM Service Bulletins Updates for MB-C2(May-November 1943).. ***These bulletins were issued to the field maintenance shops for upgrades to the CMP vehicles.. Many proceedures in the bulletins and additions did not make the maintenance manuals..

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#7: 210 pages C15-02 CHEV. ILLUST. SPARE PARTS LIST. 15CWT 4X2 MODEL C15 - CHASSIS 8421, 101" W.B. CDN.MIL. PATTERN (INC. MOD. C15-01, 02) BODY OPTIONS:- VAN, OFFICE, WATER TANK, WIRELESS, CABLE LAYER, PERSONNEL, AND GENERAL SERVICE.

It Appears that you have a C-15 Two wheel drive..If it was four wheel drive it would be a C-15A..

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Again..keep posting..
happy new Year.
Alex Blair

Alex Blair (RIP) · #3 04-01-12, 19:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by acmva

Hi Guys,

My name is Bob McWilliam. I'm new to the forum, and my computer skills are limited, but I have started the restoration of my 1940 C1500 and in need of some advise to find some parts I require.

Where can I find parts like a rad cap and the part that the cap attached to on the rad? My original rad where the cap screws on is rusted out.

Inst panel glass?

Its a long list I'm afraid, Some photos attached. Any help on sourcing parts would be fantastic.

Dirk Leegwaater has tons of parts...

http://www.lwdparts.com/

Brian Asbury on this side of the pond..

Send Brian a personal message on this panel..he will contact you..goes by the handle BCA..

Keith Webb · #4 04-01-12, 21:12

Hi Bob

Welcome to MLU, you're not tapped in to the most comprehensive body of experienced CMP enthusiasts in the world.

Alec is of course correct, it's a C15 (without the '00') and if it's 1940 chances are it has the cab 11 front sheet metal. Do you have a picture of it intact?

I have a spare original MB-C1 workshop manual although postage would I think be a bit dear from this part of the globe.

We look forward to following your progress, and doubtless many others will post here to tell you where to find parts and how to make your vehicle as authentic as you want it to be.

Let's see your want list.

Quote:

Originally Posted by acmva

Hi Guys,

My name is Bob McWilliam. I'm new to the forum, and my computer skills are limited, but I have started the restoration of my 1940 C1500 and in need of some advise to find some parts I require.

Where can I find parts like a rad cap and the part that the cap attached to on the rad? My original rad where the cap screws on is rusted out.

Inst panel glass?

Its a long list I'm afraid, Some photos attached. Any help on sourcing parts would be fantastic.

acmva · #5 04-01-12, 21:24

alex
thanks for the reply. I have the MB_C2 & C15-02 parts manual plus an original MB-C1 mtnce manual.brad mills is a friend of mine and is very helpfull . his feelings might be hurt by saying he is a nissan dealer. he s realy a mazda dealer. I will contact brian asbury to see what he might have.
bob.

cletrac (RIP) · #6 04-01-12, 21:38

This link has about the most info you'll find for your C15.

Alex Blair (RIP) · #7 04-01-12, 21:43

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Originally Posted by acmva

alex
thanks for the reply. I have the MB_C2 & C15-02 parts manual plus an original MB-C1 mtnce manual.brad mills is a friend of mine and is very helpfull . his feelings might be hurt by saying he is a nissan dealer. he s realy a mazda dealer. I will contact brian asbury to see what he might have.
bob.

Mr apologies to Brad..but I knew he had one of those Japanese Thunderbird franchises..
Better a Mazda than a Nissan any day.
This is the best forum in the world for what you have taken on..
There are other CMP owners handy Truro and in Halifax..and Maces Bay New Brunswick...and the master of CMP lives in Burton NB..Just up the street a bit from you..Name is Bill Mulholland..know-er of all things CMP..Ex army wrench..worked on them for 75 years..to hear him tell you stories..and may have lots of parts or know where you can get some..Then there are the Barn boys that run between Eastern Ontario and the Maritime s ..Robs got relatives in the Vally and the are always on raiding parties to the maritime s..
But You may have to make a trip up to Eastern Ontario this summer to Bobs BBQ..A massive gather up of CMP people who camp out at Bobs 50 acre camp spot..usually June..but will have to Confirm with Bob for this years gather up..
Stay in touch.

Hanno Spoelstra · #8 04-01-12, 23:45

Bob,

Welcome to this forum. Glad you switched from lurking to posting and I'm pretty sure we've seen your C15 on this forum before. Will look up the thread I am thinking of later, or maybe some of the other guy's memories are jogged now, too.

Hanno

Bob Carriere · #9 05-01-12, 03:06

Hi Bob
Welcome to the crazy world of CMPs and the even nuttier world of cab 11...

Curious..... there was a previous posting a few years back of someone on the East coast who purchased a alledgedly complete truck similar to yours all disassembled.... sort of a Leggo project..... was that you or the origine of your truck....?

I have tinkered a bit with a cab 11 and may have a few spare parts or at least ideas to share.

Don't be afraid to ask questions and include as many pictures as possible as some of us can't read real good !!!!!

...one of the many other Bob.

Bob Carriere · #10 05-01-12, 03:27

Hi Bob

See the attached pic.....

On the cab 11 the special ..odd.... 90 degree goose neck is lead soldered onto the radiator tank...... never seen a loose one as a NOS one...... Biran Ashbury has the NOS radiator cap with chain.

You mayhave to buy a whole radiator to get that part. In most instances we wind up buying a delapidated radiator just to save the top and bottom tank.... and pay around $400 to have it recored with four rows of tubes.

It is usually easier to find a cab 13 rad (which won't fit )than a cab 11/12.... but don't give up yet....... not usre what I have at the barn....will need to look around..... and there may be some others on the forum with a rusted out rad that is willing to remove the neck for you.

HAng in there..

Bob

....ahum..... I think I have one from Mike's truck...... I know I have one with a piece of PCB pipe adaptation....will need to check what over all shape it is in..... stay tuned.

Hanno Spoelstra · #11 05-01-12, 16:21

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Originally Posted by Bob Carriere

Curious..... there was a previous posting a few years back of someone on the East coast who purchased a alledgedly complete truck similar to yours all disassembled.... sort of a Leggo project..... was that you or the origine of your truck?

That's the one I was thinking of, Bob. Have you searched for that thread?

H.

Bob Carriere · #12 06-01-12, 02:52

Good evening Hanno

I have not had much success on my search BUT then it all depends on what odd key words were used for the initial posting.

Will try again or maybe Bob will jump in and shed some light.

Bob

acmva · #13 06-01-12, 16:16

your pics show me what mine is supposed to look like. all I need is the piece the cap turns into & the cap. it solders into the elbow on the gooseneck.
bob.

Hanno Spoelstra · #14 06-01-12, 22:25

Bob McW.,

Thanks for the hint - here's the thread: http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=12876

H.

Bob Carriere · #15 07-01-12, 02:57

Thanks Hanno

Now I realize I had all these photos copied on my data bank....

Just bad CRAFT.....Can't rmember a Freaking thing....

Now to Bob...

How bad or how good is your overall rad......?

How did the neck come loose...... is the core actually worth saving......??

Would hate to see you get a neck and cap and find out your bottom tank is corroded out and the core shot....

Overall how are you making out on the re-assembly.....?

We would all see some updated pics if available.

Will look in the storage shed this weekend to see what I have.

Bob C.

Bob Carriere · #16 07-01-12, 03:02

I can post on this thread but on a subsequent one I got a message I was not logged in....?

Wonder if it will work again this time... Darn technology

PS go figure !!!

Now figured out..... it seems you cannot post from an archived thread....

Bob Carriere · #17 07-01-12, 03:37

Hi again Bob

On the instrument panel glass....... if you are planning to refurbish your cluster there are USA sites that would have new glass and ALL the decals for the guages......

Gord Yeo is working a C8 and did order the parts from the states.......

.....Gord....???? are you hibernating or out playing with the BMP-1

Bob C

Bob Moseley (RIP) · #18 07-01-12, 10:44

Hi Bob - this is what I do over here in OZ.

Salesman Bob

acmva · #19 07-01-12, 17:56

rad seems to be good no leaks small repair in bottom corner of core. no reassembly started yet.still taking things apart as time permits.working on small bits in my basement. will post pics as soon as I learn how.
bob.

acmva · #20 05-02-12, 19:40

dug out the doors for the c15 today and after a little circa 1850 i found a Z over73.995.I guess this is the WD # . Would anyone know how I could find out where this truck was used or what unit it was assigned to?

rob love · #21 05-02-12, 20:25

That is the later version of the DND numbering system. Actually, it seems to be a mix of the later and the earlier version.

Early numbers would be the Z over a number format such as 41-1-234. The 41 would be the year the number was given to the vehicle,they all have a one after that, and the 234 would have been a sequential number assigned. I owned a 1940 once, and it had a 41 in it's prefix. A check with the war diaries of the unit it belonged to showed several other DND numbers in the same range applied to other vehicles in the unit, from staff cars to tractors.

Later they went to the numbering system like you have shown: usually two digits followed by three digits. I have not seen a rationale as to this numbering format.

To find some unit history on the truck you would need to find other markings on the vehicle. Often, over top of the Z would have been another unit marking, such as A4RCATC. That would be the unit. Later, they went to the coloured markings with numbers in them...these were usually on the front cowl and the tailgate.

acmva · #22 05-02-12, 20:46

thanks rob I'll look further on the door .no tailgate to look at & the cowl pieces are still buried in barn.

acmva · #23 05-02-12, 21:08

a little more stripping and found this.40.1.2072 .these are 2" nos. the others are 1.5 inch.

rob love · #24 06-02-12, 00:48

Yes, that is the early number, and confirms the truck was in service in 1940.