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Old 24-04-12, 03:02
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Something I've noticed

The Chevy cab 11/12 doors have a inner panel , but the fraud version didn't , the outer panel is exposed .

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Old 24-04-12, 03:51
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Default So many subtle differences.

HI Mike

I don't remember ever seeing a Ford cab 11 but the Ford cab twelve did not have a inner panel and the bottom inner section became a very convenient shelf for gloves, maps. etc.

Tony

The MAc door handles are listed as ....

item Standard, straight handle chrome 68-702350-A at $23.00 USA $ but that was 5 years ago. One would be wise to get the screws and the rubber that fits under the handle mounting base.

The "Side curtain rod socket item A180620 is sligthly different and chromed... the originals were potmetal..... and are held in place by rounded head screw bolt as shown in David's picture..... can't remember if they have a square shape inside but will next time in the barn. From Mac's photos one could conclude that the window steel rods had a round end where they fitted the door socket but became a flat bar where they entered the canvas.

AS I have a set of original side curtains, from Dirk, it may be possible to figure out where the metal rods should fit...... the sleeves/channels where the rod can be inserted must be fairly obvious..... I will check next weekend when in the barn.

I also got a set of handles from Dirk NOS and hit pay dirt on Ebay where I got 3 NOS in box for considerably less. Both Ebay and Dirk had the original OD green paint and are otherwise identical. Strangely the Mac version in Chrome seem to have a better smoother finish.
The chrome would need some light sand blasitng for the paint to adhere.

Now for the steel rods ........ MAc sell them for a specific application. As the CMP side windows were unique I am not aware of anything even vaguely similar available on the market.

I am sure they would be relatively easy to bend for repro but I have never seen an original set.... not even in picture form.....

I will take and post some pictures of the original door socket and the repro from Mac as well as the various handles I have.

Also.... on the cab 11 there was a small inner handle that fits over the square rod of the external handle ....... we found some.... will need to consult Rob Clarke...... I think they came from the bolt distributor in Toronto again slightly different in size but very similar.....
FOUND THEM....at Mac's Roadster & Phaeton, chrome item A702400C at $8.20 (2 needed)

As anyone ever seen an original set of those steel rods for the side curtains...???????

Bob

PS..... found a series of pictures of the doors and various handles, etc.....from a few Winters ago....will sort them out and repost with captions.
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Old 25-04-12, 02:50
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Default Some pictures I dug up from my files

The first one focuses on that funny thimble taht fit in the top side pf the doors and designed to hold some curtain support rod....

The first two photos shows the original slightly longer and squared in design.

Next photo shows comparaison between original and repro.

.... and finakky YES they are square on the inside.

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Old 25-04-12, 02:59
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Default Next series......

here is a side view comparaison..... the repro is sligthly shorter but will still instal even if the screw is slightly offside.

The next series are the door handle ..external and the small internal handle. You will noticed small diofference on the inside door handle but close enough

The last picture is of the latching mechanism.... it is spot welded inside the door....usually totaly worn out....available from Mac........

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Old 25-04-12, 03:11
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Default Artistic freedom....

When repairing the cab 11/12 doors I found some chronic weak areas.... one is near the latch ..... where the wedge on the frame of the cab inserts to line up the door when closed.... the cutout for the wedge has seriously weakened the door frame and it is normal to find that part of the frame cracked with the resulting strcutural load palced on the door skin.

I solved that issue by installing a large reinforcement plate to the frame..... not interferring with the function and totally covered by the inner skin anyways.

See the photos for details......adds little weight but realy stiffens the door


I will have more information after the weekend.

If you have any questions fire away and will take additional photos to help you out.

That's what the forum is all about.

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Old 25-04-12, 04:55
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Default Side Curtains

I have one of the original side curtains with rods on my Cab 12 F8. Next time at the cottage I will photo them. They are square section except at the tips where they are rounded. Quite easy to reproduce from square section bar. One of my "receivers" is missing - Bob, where did you get the repro?
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Old 26-04-12, 02:45
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Default Thanks a million, Bob!

Wow, you sure know your way around a cab 11/12 door!

I guess it is about time to blow the dust off my credit card, and start ordering stuff!

Thanks again Bob for taking the time to post all of this up. This information will probably help a lot of folks out.

Thanks, David
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Old 26-04-12, 02:54
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One of my "receivers" is missing - Bob, where did you get the repro?
See posts 351 and 355 above - Mac's Ford Parts, current price $6.50 each.
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Old 26-04-12, 02:57
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Default Hmm

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I have one of the original side curtains with rods on my Cab 12 F8. Next time at the cottage I will photo them. They are square section except at the tips where they are rounded. Quite easy to reproduce from square section bar. One of my "receivers" is missing - Bob, where did you get the repro?
The ends of the curtain supports are square , the fittings on my NOS doors are square anyway ...

I found 2 sets of NOS cab 12 Ford doors years ago, where Keith used to work .

Maybe they were made in two styles

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