New tough Victorian roadworthy rules

[Mike K]

Originally Posted by jack neville

Mike what are you trying to do? We have a very good club permit scheme in Victoria. 45 and 90 day permits. Better than any previous schemes we have ever had. The roadworthy requirements are designed to get the shitheaps off the road. i.e. the modern rust buckets and bombs owned by people who could not give a shit about what they drive or how it mght impact on other road users. I have friends in the trade doing roadworthys. they have to cop the extra baggage but as Tim Scivens says they will pass on the costs Big deal, welcome to Carbon Tax Havana! (Similar not the same). The old motoring hobby will not be impacted. We are too small in the big scope of motoring things. Studies have shown that roadworthiness of vehicles actually plays a very tiny part inroad crashes. One of the reasons that compulsory roadworthy testing on a yearly basis has not been introduced inVictoria. Aside from the corruption that it would obviously introduce.
Vic Roads is nothing more than another tax collection body. The extra crap surrounding roadworthy testing isjust justifying the costs involved. Take a pill and chill out. It won't affect you. Or us.

I'm just a tad worried that people will buy old worn out clunkers and get reg. on the CH scheme . It could happen .

You have to admit that some of the clubs don't have a strict srutineering policy , despite what the rules say. Some of the clubs are quite small and the inspectors can be unqualified anybodies eg joe blow's uncle , as long as he's a club member he can pass a vehicle as roadworthy .

Each club will interpret the rules differently . I think some clubs have a inspection day , when members bring their vehicles along for inspection .

A local here recieved a letter from his club ( a local truck club ) stating that tyres over 10 years old are not legal and any trucks will be disqualified from club reg if any tyres are over 10 years old . This is a case of a club enforcing the rules to the letter of the law , but many don't . MIKE

[jack neville]

Mike I don't know whereyou get you information from. Which clubs don't have strict scrutineering specifically? Certainly not the VMVC. Ask Euan McDonald if he will certify junk? And club vehicles need only be safeworthy, not roadworthy. As for buying old clunkers isn't that what we all have done. Keep things in perspective. And you can't interpret rules differently. A rule is a rule and that is what it is. It can have different interpretations but common sense is required. As for tyres over 10 years old, what a load of garbage. What law does that infringe upon? A tyre is roadworthy as long as it is roadworthy regardless of age. You are pedalling a load of hysteria here Micheal for no good or valid reason. If you have real concerns, not hearesay crap, take them up with people who can give you legitmate answers and stop causing angst amongst readers who may take this gossip as genuine fact.

Originally Posted by Mike Kelly

I'm just a tad worried that people will buy old wornout clunkers and get reg. on the CH scheme . It could happen .

You have to admit that some of the clubs don't have a strict srutineering policy , despite what the rules say. Some of the clubs are quite small and the inspectors can be unqualified anybodies eg joe blow's uncle , as long as he's a club member he can pass a vehicle as roadworthy .

Each club will interpret the rules differently . I think some clubs have a inspection day , when members bring their vehicles along for inspection .

A local here recieved a letter from his club ( a local truck club ) stating that tyres over 10 years old are not legal and any trucks will be disqualified from club reg if any tyres are over 10 years old . This is a case of a club enforcing the rules to the letter of the law , but many don't . MIKE

[motto]

What Mike is saying is quite reasonable Jack. It is not hysteria it is genuine concern at what is happening all around us and his warning does not deserve your aggressive response. The bureaucracy is getting ever more stifling and Vicroads is a bureaucracy as focused on regulation as it may be on taxation. Otherwise they would not bother regulating and just put their charges up.

You ridicule the idea that tyres would or could ever be lifed but this idea has been seriously discussed and legislation formulated if not adopted in the UK and Europe and what happens there is often followed up here. This was reported on in the MVT journal Windscreen some years ago.Richard Farrant would no doubt know more about it.

'The price of freedom is eternal vigilance' as the Americans say and the dogs are barking. You want facts Jack? The fact is that we are vastly more regulated than we were even twenty years ago and the process is not going to stop of its own accord so don't be so dismissive of the warning.

David

[jack neville]

Dave, What I prefer to do is stick with the facts and not worry about hysteria. The fact is tyres are not illegal in Victoria because of age. Only condition. That is a fact. Yes regulations have changed a lot over the years. But are we over regulated in all areas? Compare the club permit scheme of today. Any Left hand vehicles now ok. More suitable permit scheme with 45 and 90 days. Safe worthy over full roadworthy. When you want to register a vehicle you don't even have to present the vehicle. Compare that legislation to twenty years.
The firearms act whilst taking alot of firearms from people who didnt really need them now actually caters for re-enactors to have greater range of weapons than ever, whether genuine or replica. The Geelong group had a welded up Vickers which they could only display as a static weapon. The reclassifaction of licence categories now allows them to have it as a fully operational blank firing weapon. They have a mortar that firees dummy rounds, a blank firing 25 ponder and dummy firing rocket weapons. Quite a few members now have fully operational blank firing automatic weapons. All not possibe a few years ago. much of this legislation advantage came about because Robin Mawson took on the legislators at the draft proposal stage and pushed the re-enactors case to get what the hobby needed. The Liquor licensing laws in Victoria (whether you imbibe or not is irrelevant) allow you to get a drink 24 hours a day and bottles shops open twice as long as they do.

I apologise if i have sounded aggressive but I prefer to deal in facts not paranoia and hysteria.