CMP Type

Hanno Spoelstra · #1 08-12-12, 11:08

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Originally Posted by ArcticCamper

Time to research what's out there. I've been watching MilWeb and G503 for about 10 years. Any other sites I should scan through for a C15A with Cab No. 12 and 2B1 box? Never cared for the fender type boxes.

Duane,

If you fit a Weasel, you'll fit in a Cab 11 or 12, however it will be snug.

There's one close to what you're looking for on auction in the USA TODAY: http://www.auctionsamerica.com/event...ture=grouping=

Act quickly, a chance like this will not come up often!

Phil Waterman · #2 08-12-12, 17:14

Having a Pattern 12 and Pattern 13 you will definitely discover they were built for the average height and weight of the day. At 5'6" I drive my Pat 12 with the seat virtually all the way back against the back of the cab. I'd suggest you start taking yoga classes at 6'3" you'll need to be able to touch your knee to your chin to get in and out of a Pat 11 or 12. As to the weight that will depend on how it is distributed.

Some of the bigger guys in our MV club have trouble even getting in and out of the passengers seat.

But having said that once you figure out how to slide your self in they are an enjoyable truck to drive.

About the headlights if anybody is looking for the original bulb type headlight units they are available, both as regular blub and even halogen, I have them my trucks. So if anybody is looking I'll dig out the source.

If you want to do some more wondering around on the web to look at CMPs take a look at my website. http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/

Being in Virginia may be you could take a run up to the MVMVC Weare Rally this summer July 25-27, 2012 it will be our 26th year. There will at least 3 CMPs there.

Cheers Phil

PS Bob is correct most of us use our real names, which encourages people to take the time to dig out information for fellow members of MLU.

Duane Leiker · #3 08-12-12, 17:45

Good day Hanno,
From what I see (enlarging photo), it's a 4x2 not a 4x4. Description doesn't mention capture documentation. No photo of motor bay and if the vehicle will even run/stop. The problem with most Museum vehicles is that they look good but are in questionable condition electrically and mechanically. Also, the cost of buying, getting it working and transportation make this vehicle a financial gamble.

Best vehicles to buy are ones that have been restored or semi-restored and are being driven regularly.

Don't get me wrong, it is a very nice looking truck but not enough information to sink $20K+ to own.

How much "roomier" is the No. 13 cab? Were any fitted with the 2B1 bed? I may have to keep an open mind on any of these type trucks.

I've scoured the net and information seems to be limited on the CMP's.

By the way, been a member here since 2005 but life took me in a different direction and haven't been on in years. My name is Duane. I'm an exArmy Arctic Warfare Specialist. Hence my ID name. I'm more interested in arctic/snow machines and the not-so-well known vehicles. No big interest in the every day usual surplus military vehicles.

Thank you for the response Hanno.

Bob Carriere · #4 08-12-12, 17:55

Who can dig up the all Aluminium tracked vehicle that Bob Phillips was trying to sell a few years ago.....

If Duane likes the unusual snow machine...... Wapiti...?

Bob

Yeo.NT · #5 08-12-12, 18:24

Here you go Bob, built by Ford Canada with what appears to be bomardier tracks, Ford tractor wheels, tires, a Chaffee final drive, a absecure bus engine and transmisson out of the states

Phil Waterman · #6 08-12-12, 19:32

Hi Duane

The Pattern 13 Cabs are much more roomy than the Pattern 12s.

On the standard CMP the air conditioning works great in the winter, while the heaters are more than adequate in the summer. But what you might get a real kick out of is the Arctic Kit that was developed for the true cold weather operation. Heater kits on CMPs are relatively un-common, I once heard that this was deliberate to save on fuel.

You might find the winter photos of Pattern 12 & 13s taken in British Columbia during the war http://canadianmilitarypattern.com/C...20Columbia.htm with your specialist training you may get a kick out of the predicaments shown as a result of convoy driving on snowy roads.

Welcome aboard or more correctly welcome back as you first found and joined MLU back in 2005.

As to finding a good running or restored CMP they do come up from time to take a look at the For Sale Or Trade section to get an idea of what has come up over the last few years. Also take a look at the Heads Up heading in that section as the MLU network seems to do a pretty good job of spotting ads for CMPs on the web and even down to the local shopper news level.

Cheers Phil

Grant Bowker · #7 08-12-12, 21:41

The thread that described the Wapiti Bob Phillips was trying to sell was:
http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ghlight=wapiti

Duane Leiker · #8 08-12-12, 21:53

Phil,
I take it the Canada Gov. used the CMP like the US used the CCKW. In the photo link, all I noticed were CMP's. A lot of CMP's. The background was magnificent. Reminds me of Vancouver and Ottawa areas where I have been before (3.5 decades ago). I thought being up North almost all the vehicles used would have Arctic kits. I did notice the HUP standing out in one photo. If you have photos of your HUP interior, I'd like to see them. Is there a manufacturer breakdown of how many models were built?

Glad it has a good air conditioner, I hate getting hot in Winter while driving and nothing beats a great heater during summer with the windows up.

Is the Wapiti available? Where is it located? I'd like to drive up and look it over if a reasonable distance.

Phil Waterman · #9 08-12-12, 23:36

Hi Duane

Here is the best list of production numbers for CMPs from one of Bill Gregg's books on CMPs.

Yes, I have pictures of the interior of my HUP but I've have to narrow the search down an send the links. My web page has to many pages, photos, etc and it lacks an true index or search feature.

Cheers Phil

Duane Leiker · #10 08-12-12, 19:17

Phil,
Great website and beautiful vehicles. If I make it up to the Weare Rally next summer, can I try and sit in your vehicles? Does the HUP vehicle have more room for a large carcass?
I was attending the Rally in Spooner, Wis. every year held by Kevin Kronlund. Unfortunately, he was killed in a harvesting accident and the Rallies stopped. I'll miss him.

Bob,
That "Beast" is huge. I LOVE it. I have no idea if it would fit in my garage. I don't suppose anyone has dimensions on that thing. If a couple cleats are available, I can make duplicates and belting is nothing to get. Sprockets can be water jet made. Motor parts shouldn't be hard to find but, the transmission (unusual English Trans.) might be a different matter. All-in-all, a wonderful project. Of course, I'm not really looking for a project. However, anything is possible if the price is right and hauling that bad boy is reasonable.

Thank you.

Hanno Spoelstra · #11 09-12-12, 13:40

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Originally Posted by ArcticCamper

Good day Hanno,
From what I see (enlarging photo), it's a 4x2 not a 4x4. Description doesn't mention capture documentation. No photo of motor bay and if the vehicle will even run/stop. The problem with most Museum vehicles is that they look good but are in questionable condition electrically and mechanically. Also, the cost of buying, getting it working and transportation make this vehicle a financial gamble.

Best vehicles to buy are ones that have been restored or semi-restored and are being driven regularly.

Don't get me wrong, it is a very nice looking truck but not enough information to sink $20K+ to own.

Hi Duane,

I posted up the link as the auction was running yesterday and I didn't want you to miss out on an opportunity if that truck was to your liking and in your price range. We now know it sold for $ 25,000, so at least we know you didn't miss out on a bargain

Keep looking at CMPs listed for sale on this forum in Canada, the United States (there were some more listed but I need to find them back), or even England, as that is where the very same C15A you posted a picture of, is up for sale!

Hanno