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Old 09-01-13, 22:22
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I must admit Mike that research is not my strong point, I merely have an accumulation of information that is not always accurate. The fact is that we may never know the true philosophy behind the adoption of the .303 Mark 7 projectile and its unique construction. Maybe it was simply a wrong headed solution to a perceived ballistic problem, maybe something more sinister. If it was even slightly sinister then without doubt there are people with a keen interest in keeping that knowledge out of the public realm.

We can't believe all we read Mike. You should know that better than any one.

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Old 10-01-13, 00:36
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We can't believe all we read Mike. You should know that better than any one.

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Old 10-01-13, 01:33
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Now that one I will take a stand on: No I don't .... (believe all I read, or that Santa exists)

Perhaps that's why I was careful in my posts on the subject to avoid any definitive comment on what I thought was the right or wrong of it, simply threw in Temple's quote and followed where it took us: much more fun and infinitely more enlightening!

Now that we are over all that, take a look at:

http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot37.htm

You'll see a graphic demonstration of exactly what Dave is talking about, be the 'tip filler' Al, plastic or wood (depends on where and when a .303 round was manufactured).

Enjoy!

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GREAT movie, followed by two excellent series: Band of Brothers and Pacific. Bring on more quality movies/series like those, I say.



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Agree Mike, but I am get a bit tired of US war movies and TV series. Come on Hollywood what about everyone else!

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Old 10-01-13, 17:15
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I don't mind where they come from - and as Hollywood rarely seems to invest in a story that doesn't involve Americans, then it's probably up to the filmmakers in other countries.

It's been a long time since 'Z Force' and 'The Odd Angry Shot' .... (and weren't they hilarious??)

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Old 10-01-13, 21:23
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Hey Easo, Santa gave me a nice DVD for Christmas. (I must believe in Santa or where do the gifts come from?) I understand the DVD is a heart warming story about a man and his horse.

OH,NO! I just took a look at the DVD and its actually called WARHORSE ! It's a WAR story ! Damn ! I wonder how I get it back to Santa?

That is an interesting link Mike. They identified another aspect of the bullet's behaviour that I hadn't picked up on and that's the tendency for them to break up due to the two piece core. Did the designers know exactly what they were creating? Makes me doubt the veracity of Temple's statement all the more.

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Old 10-01-13, 22:01
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or that Temple was simply (blindly?) quoting from the official line about the reason for the construction. As I think you alluded to earlier, the Brit Govt would hardly want the terminal effect publicized. Or maybe the terminal effect was an unintended (but secretly welcomed) consequence of the design. We'll probably never know which came first.

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Hey Easo, Santa gave me a nice DVD for Christmas. (I must believe in Santa or where do the gifts come from?) I understand the DVD is a heart warming story about a man and his horse.

OH,NO! I just took a look at the DVD and its actually called WARHORSE ! It's a WAR story ! Damn ! I wonder how I get it back to Santa?

That is an interesting link Mike. They identified another aspect of the bullet's behaviour that I hadn't picked up on and that's the tendency for them to break up due to the two piece core. Did the designers know exactly what they were creating? Makes me doubt the veracity of Temple's statement all the more.

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It's been a long time since 'Z Force' and 'The Odd Angry Shot' .... (and weren't they hilarious??)

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I think I have a copy of Rats of Tobruk about on VHS! Some old Chips Rafferty in B&W.
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I think I have a copy of Rats of Tobruk about on VHS! Some old Chips Rafferty in B&W.
I wouldn't mind seeing that. Also 40,000 horsemen, another Chips Rafferty film.

It would be interesting to see how they stand up today.

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