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Old 20-03-13, 01:29
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Cliff & George,

Sorry, you've reached the limit of my knowledge on the 6 inch BL. Time to find some examples and compare them.

Don't know of too many survivors in Australia, though. The RAA museum collection is in storage at Bandiana, but that may be a source of info.

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Old 20-03-13, 23:46
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Cliff & George,

Sorry, you've reached the limit of my knowledge on the 6 inch BL. Time to find some examples and compare them.

Don't know of too many survivors in Australia, though. The RAA museum collection is in storage at Bandiana, but that may be a source of info.

Mike C
No problems mate.
Just seemed strange having an Aus suffix to the mark of gun.
18pdrs, 4.5" howitzers had slight differences in "Commonwealth" service, particularly wheels/tyres.
Might be the old story, as rubber was getting scarce...better to use what was available re civilian stuff......just a thought.

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Old 22-03-13, 00:56
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Many, many years ago there was a 6 inch carriage and trail on a farm near Drouin, Victoria. John Belfield beat me to it and located a barrel etc on the range at Pucka and put it together. I do not remember the size of the tyres, but they were certainly wide on quite large wheels.

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Old 22-03-13, 01:17
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Here's a few pictures of the 6" Howitzer at 'Firepower' the Artillery museum in London.
Does anyone know what happened to Johns 6" gun ?

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Old 22-03-13, 18:06
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Here's a few pictures of the 6" Howitzer at 'Firepower' the Artillery museum in London.
Does anyone know what happened to Johns 6" gun ?

Rob...............rnixartillery
I recall seeing a photo of a 6" in a yard on this MLU (edit...I found the photo), it may have been a discussion about the Bellfield collection, it also had the "scout carrier" featured as well. IIRC it has the 13.50 x 20 tyres.
The Firepower example...I would love to find out the history of this one, it has a completely different axle and brake set up to anything else in any of the manuals.....I think it was something that ROF Woolwich put together, as I have not seen any other like it in photos etc. It may have been an experimental set up, using parts of the original brakes acting on a drum and the axletree modified to take the pneumatic tyres and wheels. Here are some close ups of the arrangement, it's possible to see the way it was fabricated to use the "old" style brake system, it all looks to be a bit of a lash up.
......"never seen anything like it in me life".

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Old 22-03-13, 18:36
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A friend of mine restored the gun for firepower,I'll see if he knows anymore about the history of it.
There were quite a few variations in the conversion to pneumatics between British and Australian workshops,limber conversions are a good example of this.


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Old 26-03-13, 01:50
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A friend of mine restored the gun for firepower,I'll see if he knows anymore about the history of it.
There were quite a few variations in the conversion to pneumatics between British and Australian workshops,limber conversions are a good example of this.


Rob..................rnixartillery.
That woul be great,
It certaiunly seems something that ROF made up, I certainly have never seen another one like that. A lot of guns were converted prior to 1939, however the BEF had at least three styles of wheels. Strange though the ones fitted with the 24" wheels do not appear, they are either spoked variants or the those with the 20" wheels and wider tyres.
Re the limbers, I only have info on the WW1 and inter-war types. I think the inter war were converted from earlier types by having a "tracor towing attachment" fitted, they still retained the original spoked wheels.

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