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Old 26-03-13, 22:14
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@ Michael. The one you borrowed is a Bizal made one. Kevin, hopefully it saves you having to measure it up.

My reasoning for this bracket is to simply allow for storage of the rifles and being able to clear the battery below. As for the condenser tank, it probably was a convenient place to hang it for the people who designed the layout.
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Old 27-03-13, 01:12
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Thank-you all for your input.

Lynn E. provided the three dimensions, which match both the part produced at Mid-West Military, as well as a production bracket with mounting holes for attaching the recovery tank.
With thanks to Lynn, Manfred and Jordan.

Jordan kindly loaned me the reproduction bracket off his MKI*, non-mortar version carrier. With that bracket in place, I questioned if the length was correct for the mortar carrier application when supporting the radiator condenser, hence my request for dimensions.

The images posted by Kevin show a production condenser tank as found fitted on Rick's De B.'s mortar carrier, which is from the Canadian contract of 1,000 units. Production dates observed for that contract are November, 1942 and January, 1943. Rick has an excellent photo montage of his UC-2 mortar carrier posted through MLU.



In the last two photo images, you can see the 1st. Battalion, Rocky Mountain Rangers on parade in February, 1942 through downtown Vancouver, B.C. Canada with M10 Ross rifles and BREN MK.I. The other factory image is a mortar carrier at Ford Canada in Windsor, Ontario. Note the rifle type being held and also fitted in the stand-off bracket?


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1. Ford Motor Company, Windsor, Ontario
2. City of Vancouver Archives, Canada. Image #AM1184-S3-: CVA 1184-63 (cropped)
3. Rick DeBruyn
The line drawings are copied from Chilwell, with thanks to George Moore.
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Old 27-03-13, 04:33
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@ Michael. The one you borrowed is a Bizal made one. Kevin, hopefully it saves you having to measure it up.

My reasoning for this bracket is to simply allow for storage of the rifles and being able to clear the battery below. As for the condenser tank, it probably was a convenient place to hang it for the people who designed the layout.
I agree, I think it's a spacer to clear the battery below. Though, the manual does refer to a wireless function and the 11 set does have an AE coupler that somewhat fits....
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Old 29-03-13, 00:01
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Michael, I can measure an original, after tuesday.
In some of the pre universals, with a similar bracket (but not exactly the same) the stowage plan identifies the bracket as support for a rifle, and a Bren LMG.
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