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Old 19-05-13, 11:49
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Default Front axle & steering

Yesterday, I got the diff carrier bearing cups out of the casing halves. Well, my father-in-law did the required welding, I just pulled the cups out once cooled. The case is now ready for painting. The second of the steering knuckles got it's coat of etch this afternoon. I would have gone ahead with the painting today, but it was far too windy, or more to the point, wind direction was constantly changing. I only wanted to paint the truck parts, not our weekday car or the neighbour's, so no top-coat today.
front axle halves primed 1.jpg front Dside steering joint primed.jpg
Got further with one of the brake backing plates, which now has the full system installed, with one exception, I don't yet have two new banjo bolts to attach the new brake hose/s. I get those Monday afternoon. I need to buy one of the brass cams that are used for adjusting the lower end or brake shoes. Looks like the former owner wasn't good with keeping his parts in the one place! I did find the required brake retracting springs though. With a good cleanup, they were fine to paint & use.
front brake backing plate finished.jpg
This photo may be useful, if anybody wants to copy it. The new outer wheel-hub bearing and wheel hub seal have been installed, so I can confirm the part numbers shown in the photo are correct. Just be aware that the seal is thiner profile than the original. That suits me fine, because the contact surface (there's two actually on the new style) will now sit on a slightly different part of the shaft, and won't be sitting in the small valley created from wear of abrasion against original seal.
front hub bearing & seal installed 1.jpg

During the week I will be looking into having new U bolts made for the rear axle. Mine were too long and need the threads turned down about another 75mm (3"). That was to be attempted by the engineering folks, but they haven't had the opportunity to do it.
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Old 26-05-13, 11:59
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Default Front end painting

Painted the major parts of the front end this morning.

Once sufficiently dried, I moved them into the workshop, and found a way to store them without damaging any paint. Sliding each steering end & axle shaft into their respective axle case was the best I could do.
Axle halves painted 1.jpg Steering end painted 1.jpg Driver side parts drying.jpg Passenger side parts stored.jpg
Work came to an abrupt end when I was sliding the passenger side axle shaft into it's case when it caught on an internal rivet head, and came off the rivet just as my hand was trying to get a better grip. The bloody thing dropped about 8" onto my hand which was flat on the top of the axle case, squashing it and keeping me there for about 30 seconds until I could lift it a little to get the hand out. Oh my goodness, I exclaimed! All fingers move OK. Painful and swollen, but not broken. It'll be an interesting color by tomorrow, I would wager.
Worn hub seal line.jpg
How's this for a well worn groove! As mentioned earlier, the new seals sit in a slightly different location, due to thinner profile. That will work out well.
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Old 26-05-13, 12:13
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Default Engine Parts starting to arrive now.

The engine parts are rolling in now. I'm mainly ordering upper engine and valvetrain stuff. NOS valves and slightly o/s main bearing set should arrive this week. I'm bidding on a set of adjustable (new) tappets, so I don't have to stuff around grinding the bums off valve stems!
NOS Valve Guides.jpg NOS Valve Retainers.jpg New Valve Springs.jpg New Head Bolt Studs.jpg
The NOS valve guides cost me $3.50US each, from a place in New Jersey.

Also received a new set of Flathead exterior bolts, but forgot to photograph.

I will be re-sleeving any cylinders that would require oversize boring, to retain original displacement. Saves me buying o/s pistons.
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Old 26-05-13, 12:18
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hi Tony,
All looking good.

Hope your hand is alright, a hazard of the occupation, I can vouch for that

regards, Richard
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Old 26-05-13, 19:22
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Default The Common Grove

Hi

Ah yes the common grove, isn't that we are all stuck in?

But yes almost every CMP front drive hub seems to have this. Yes you are correct one thing about the new seals is that they ride in a different area.

One of my trucks has two of the new seals in the seal seats so that it is doubly sealed, pact the seals with wheel grease before installing to be sure the outer seal had a little lubrication.

I've looked in to Speedysleeve for this area if the grove makes the wheel leak to much but so far none of mine have ever had wheel hub seal leak that would require it. If my memory is correct there is a Speedysleeve that would do the job.

If I was going to do a serious water fording I would actually be more concerned about water leaking in.

What ever you do don't forget the axle nut keeper. That will really put a grove in the hub.

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Old 26-05-13, 23:43
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Hope your hand is alright, a hazard of the occupation, I can vouch for that
Hello Richard. No great harm done.

A slight injury like this, is a good reminder that it's best to call for assistance in heavy lifting.
In this case, not that heavy, but bloody ackward to move around in the manner I wanted.
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Old 26-05-13, 23:47
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Default Axle Nut Keeper

Phil,

I don't believe either of the ends had a keeper on there when I removed originally.
You don't meen the thick washer do you? What does it look like?
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Old 27-05-13, 01:36
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Default Bent tab washer between the nuts

Hi Tony

Not sure of how yours was put together but below is a picture of type mine has, the other version I've seen is a big castle nut with pin.

The first photo shows the bent tab keeper, 2nd shows the nut and pin, 3rd and 4th show how close I came to loosing a wheel after a keeper failed.

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Old 27-05-13, 01:42
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Default How I lift and install the hub and drum end

Hi All

Working alone, figuring out how to lift and position awkward and heavy parts, here is the rigging for the front hub.

Shown here is the entire hub end hanging from engine hoist bar of chain fall.

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