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Old 14-06-13, 03:36
Michael R. Michael R. is offline
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Wow ! David, can you please post some of the Ford factory images of these transfers? That would be a good contribution.
Some of the Dr. Gregg collection Lynx too! Is that the same Lynx that Rob L. looks after in the Shilo museum, the Lynx that was returned from Portugal?

RE: I have a collection of Ford of Canada production photos taken at Windsor, Ontario during production of the UC Carrier and Windsor. When these vehicles rolled out of the factory, all the Kit Stowage points were identified on the Carrier with white on clear water transfer decals. These are easily identified by the solid white letters and in some cases by the light reflecting from the clear transfer film.


Is there any chance the original lettering may have been white paint, with a clear coat of a shellac like material over them?
Here is an image from a portion of the BREN spare barrel & accessories stencil as found inside the lid. A survivor of a few service performed repaints.

If there is one thing I am pretty sure of, it is that there is seldom "the only way" of anything associated to the production of these vehicles. Not too much room for "always" and "never"?
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Old 14-06-13, 04:23
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Gord Falks mk2 carrier has the remnants of the kit stowage stencils. Perhaps if Gord is lurking here he could supply some photos.
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Old 14-06-13, 05:12
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Gord Falks mk2 carrier has the remnants of the kit stowage stencils. Perhaps if Gord is lurking here he could supply some photos.
I'm starting to be content I have a Mk.1* and not a Mk.II* carrier. It seems like there would have to be a whole lot of additional stenciling/decal-ling to make it 'right'.

I find the use of water transfer decals interesting. Other WW2 Canadian AFV's used a screened or printed lettering.
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Old 14-06-13, 06:12
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If any local Carrier owners require stencils in 3/4" or 1" size I have cutting machines for both of these and a large quantity of paper. (About 3/4 of a ton).

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Old 14-06-13, 08:11
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David, are you talking about the "oilboard" paper for the stencil cutter machines?
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Old 14-06-13, 08:25
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I've not heard it called that Lynn but that would be it. Most of it's in rolls 20" diameter and 10 " or so wide. Each roll weighs in at around 60lb.

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Old 22-06-13, 20:29
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I finally located the photos from Ford Canada and will start cropping the decals information for you. The original photos are all 8 x 10 glossy format. If I leave them as is, they will grind the forum to a halt and Hanno will be travelling over here in short order to KMA! If I compress the photos, the details will be completely lost.

Interestingly, one of the photos Ford sent me is a full right side shot of their Windsor prototype, which they created by stretching a standard UC. It shows where the extensions were installed, what sections of the UC remained original and the dimensions of same. Possibly enough information to create a working "Windsor" chassis assembly.

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Old 22-06-13, 21:14
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The only stencil Ford applied to the Carrier at the factory was the "SLING HERE" markings by the front and rear lifting rings. These are in white Gothic lettering.

At the front, the word "SLING" is centred over the word "HERE" with a 0.050 inch space between the words. The stencil is located one inch above the front edge of the lower hull plate and 6 inches in from either inside fender surface.

At the rear of the carrier "SLING HERE" forms a single line on both sides of the rear top axle cover plate, inboard of the rear lifting rings. Curiously, they have the same orientation, in that they are both readable from the right side of the vehicle.

Available decals to follow shortly.

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