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Old 17-08-13, 18:26
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Lending or Borrowing Replica Firearms

A replica firearm cannot be sold or given to an individual or an unlicensed business. However, a replica firearm can be loaned to:
a person who borrows it specifically to fulfill their duties or employment in a motion picture, television, video or theatrical or
publishing activities; or a certified instructor who wants to use it to teach the Canadian Firearms Safety Course or the Canadian Restricted Firearm Safety Course. The specific requirements pertaining to such things as record keeping, notification and storage requirements can be found in the Special Authority to Possess Regulations (Firearms Act) (SAP).

Use of Replica Firearms in Crimes

When used to commit a crime, replica firearms are included in the broader Criminal Code definition of "imitation firearms". There is a mandatory minimum penalty of one year in prison if an imitation firearm is used to commit, to attempt to commit, or during flight after
committing, a serious criminal offence, such as kidnapping, robbery or sexual assault. This sentence must be added on to the sentence for
the main offence.

Storing and Transporting Replica Firearms

Replica firearms should be stored and transported carefully to keep them out of the hands of someone who might misuse them. If a replica firearm is borrowed under the terms of the SAP Regulations, it must be stored in a sturdy, securely locked container, vault, safe or room that cannot be broken open or into easily. There are no specific requirements for personal use of replicas, but the law requires dividuals to exercise reasonable caution for the safety of otherpersons.
If replicas are being transported, they must be locked in the vehicle’s trunk or in a similar lockable compartment. If the vehicle does not have a trunk or compartment in which the replica can be locked, the replica must be put out of sight inside the vehicle and the vehicle must be locked. If shipping a replica firearm, it must be sent via a carrier that is licensed to transport prohibited devices. The CFP has a list of eligible carrier companies. Replica firearms being shipped by licensed carrier must be packed in a sturdy, non-transparent container that cannot be broken into easily and that is not likely to break open accidentally. Businesses that are licensed to possess prohibited devices for an approved purpose must store and transport these and other prohibited devices in accordance with the Storage, Display and Transportation of Firearms and Other Weapons by Businesses Regulations.

Information

Information on importing a device that is not a prohibited replica is available from the Canada Border Services Agency at 1-800-461-9999.
For more information, contact the CFP. This fact sheet is intended to provide general information only. For legal references, please refer to the Criminal Code and the Firearms Act and their corresponding regulations. Provincial, territorial and municipal laws, regulations and policies may also apply.
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Old 17-08-13, 19:03
Bruce Parker (RIP) Bruce Parker (RIP) is offline
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Thanks Barry, it's silly but that is the law as it is here in Canada. I suppose banning lifelike 1:1 scale model kits of .357 revolvers they sold in the past might arguably make some sense. But not being able to get a soft metal or fiberglass Browning for a vehicle restoration is nuts.

The only additional thing that surprised me was the prohibition of airsoft that looks substantially like a real firearm. I can't argue with the wording above but do know a lot of airsoft owners who have accurate versions and think they are perfectly OK. Even Princess auto sells some accurate examples. I'm not sure what's going on in this regard because what I'm seeing isn't matching up with what you've posted.
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Old 17-08-13, 19:12
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WRT the airsoft, that is where the threshold of 366+ fps comes in. That is the speed that the firearms lab has determined can cause serious bodily harm, and is therefore legal to have without controls.

Re the transportation of replicas, note that the transportation requirements are actually greater for a replica than the requirements for a real gun. You can have a real rifle (non-restricted) in the front seat with you, the only requirement being that it is unloaded.
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Old 17-08-13, 21:07
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WRT the airsoft, that is where the threshold of 366+ fps comes in. That is the speed that the firearms lab has determined can cause serious bodily harm, and is therefore legal to have without controls.

Re the transportation of replicas, note that the transportation requirements are actually greater for a replica than the requirements for a real gun. You can have a real rifle (non-restricted) in the front seat with you, the only requirement being that it is unloaded.
How then doe this make sense?

"Some airsoft guns, resembling with near precision an existing make and model of a firearm, are replica firearms and therefore prohibited devices."

It looks to me like airsoft is getting more and more into lifelike versions. Their website has wood and metal service rifles patterned exactly after things like Kar 98's, Stens and M1 carbines. But I also see that they have a page for Canada permitted items and these are not on it. It follows therefore that they are not legal here and the RCMP quote makes sense.

Sort of.

What is available in Canada are lifelike metal M-16's. So why is an airsoft M16 OK but not a Kar98?
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Old 17-08-13, 21:11
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If a person has a homemade lifelike replica, who's to say if he had it before 1998 or not? I'd say they were all built before 1998.
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Old 18-08-13, 00:04
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What am absolutely charming piece of legislation. When was common sense murdered in Canada? That's just sad. I doubt that your (below?) average politicians would understand those laws. How is the public supposed to follow them?
I took this little line from another forum;

"A democracy is two wolves and a sheep,voting on what's for supper".

It makes understanding how we arrived at where we are, easier.
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Old 18-08-13, 00:16
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When was common sense murdered in Canada?
I'm going to expose my politics here...but it started was when we elected Pierre Trudeau as Prime Minister. If that's not bad enough we now have his idiot love child son as leader of the Liberal party with a fair chance of becoming our next leader. That's gonna hurt.
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