CMP Canvas Splash Guard

m606paz · #1 05-05-13, 02:57

Hi Fellows
We found these pieces of canvas, and the seller, a man who acquired many parts of the Argentine Army Auction, said to be CMP Canvas Splash Guard...

What do you think?

Regards

r.morrison · #2 05-05-13, 05:41

Mariano: Just left my C60L and your unit looks exactly like the units on mine, so I'll throw my hat in the ring and say yes! So before Mssr's Carriere and Love

get in there.....are they for sale?? AND did you come across any other nice "GOODIES" from the nice gentleman........Robert

Hanno Spoelstra · #3 05-05-13, 09:09

Mariano,

Nice find, it certainly looks like a CMP splash guard or mud flap (not sure how these are called in the parts list).

I am interested if they would be for sale.

Regards,
Hanno

Keith Webb · #4 05-05-13, 10:47

Wonderful find... hope there are boxes and boxes of them!

Bob Carriere · #5 05-05-13, 15:37

Watch you tongue !!!!!

Since my cab 11 is an early REAL CMP it has real rubber mud flaps none of that second generation canvas make do ..........

Makes you wonder what else is gathering dust down Brazil way..... we got original mirrors ....... I got an original sealed nos headlight blackout lens ....... we know they have relatively complete UC..... and now the mud flaps....

Bob

m606paz · #6 05-05-13, 23:48

They were acquired many years ago by a member of our association, and was the one who said, which the seller had said they were from CMP .... A seller, we are to buy a lot of parts to complete our LAAT, and as now he had not these parts, was that this member donated them...

Svenn Ryen · #7 29-05-13, 00:03

I just had these made for my C15A by John and Mary Canvas in GB. GBP 20 for the set of four. Will post Picture when they arrive.

http://uscanvas.com/

They also make CMP window canvas and the rear tarpaulin. Not sure about seats.

Svenn

Lauren Child · #8 23-11-13, 16:07

I'm on the waiting list for some as well! How long did it take for you to get yours?

Marc Montgomery · #9 23-11-13, 16:19

The ones mentioned earlier by Morrisson on the C60 were made by me... exact repros of an NOS one
The photo does look like the rear mudflaps... Front mudflaps were much smaller.

In one of the old CONVOY magazines is the plan for making repros- dimensions and construction methods.
If I recall, the middle section has a thin layer of filler- horsehair at the time. and the bottom strip has a stiffener..something like ten-test- at the time..I rebuilt with 1/16th steel to have the stiffens and a tad weight

Phil Waterman · #10 23-11-13, 17:40

Hi All

Rubber or Canvas mud flaps seems to be issue of when the truck was built, and were they ever replaced. My `42 Pat 13 C60S had rubber mud flaps while my `45 HUP had canvas front and rear.

In the process of my recent overhaul of the HUP I replaced the flaps with canvas copies of the originals. But I got the rear ones wrong they were neither stiff enough nor the canvas heavy enough. The result was that the air stream coming off the rear tires would fold them up were they would contact the tire resulting in a heavy thwack on the fender and very quick wear on the flaps.

My original canvas flaps have steel sewn into the middle and bottom in pockets. I copied these and sewed the flaps the same way so what I got wrong was the flaps were not stiff enough to be held down and not get caught by the air current off the tires.

For the next try I will try and use much stiffer canvas.

Cheers Phil

Marc Montgomery · #11 23-11-13, 17:55

yes the canvas should be heavywieght/thick.. typical "canvas" generally sold today is thin about half the weight needed

were you a Convoy subscriber? do you have the template and info for the rear flaps from the mag?

Marc Montgomery · #12 23-11-13, 18:05

As i try to remember..there may have been 3 layers to the rear canvas..front- back and a piece in the middle.... (??) As I recall there was straight stitching on one side and the X stitching on the other?????

Again proper details somewhere in an old Convoy issue

Phil Waterman · #13 23-11-13, 18:19

Hi Marc

I have the flap drawings, can't remember who sent them but I have them. Also have saved my original HUP and C60S flaps as future patterns.

Problem on getting the heavy canvas as used originally which was a heavy cotton canvas which was heavily treated with waterproofing that also had a anti-mold chemical. Recently purchased some new heavy canvas that look the same and was heavily waterproofed but before I could make new flaps it developed black mold. It had been sitting on the shelf in the shop in its plastic bag for about 6 months. So I have got to do some more checking to see if it was just the batch of canvas I bought.

Cheers Phil

chris vickery · #14 23-11-13, 19:00

Surplus 2-1/2 ton truck tarps are a great source of inexpensive heavy canvas.

David Dunlop · #15 23-11-13, 23:48

Check your local tent and awning company as well.

David

Marc Montgomery · #16 24-11-13, 16:35

even tent and awning material tends to be half the weight needed.

When I had the original 60cwt tarp made (and mudflap material)..it was by a company which existed in WWII.. and was the very heavy..treated canvas... the tarp weighed a ton!

and flaps were pretty stiff.. wish I had access to those Convoy templates...Phil may be correct there may have been two strips of stiffeners.

BCA · #17 24-11-13, 22:18

The samples that I have are 3 variations of the same design as posted by Mariano; probably just variations in canvas and perhaps various makers. The canvas is fairly typical of heavyweight tarp canvas but, as Marc said, there appears to be an interior layer of extra canvas or padding. A steel plate, 1.5" wide is sewn into the lower section. The padding and the steel plate give the impression of a thick, almost quilted mudflap.
... Brian