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Old 22-12-13, 20:53
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The replacement of the Brownings is a low priority for the army. Sidearms were recorded as having killed zero insurgents by the CF in Afghanistan. Lots of other areas where the money could be spent more effectively. The news is now out that the CF is parking close to 50% of it's B vehicles as a cost cutting measure.

As for border services receiving sidearms, I am sure they are enjoying having to wear their vests and sidearms on both hot days and cold (that's sarcasm by the way). For the number of arrests at gunpoint they are making, it does not seem like money well spent.

As to the complaint that the magazines fall out of the BHP while firing, I have never seen that happen, and I fire a BHP in competitions all the time. Anyone else ever seen this?
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Old 22-12-13, 21:27
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I have experienced some feed problems on the range with this handgun which were attributed to well used magazines. I am no firearms expert but any Hi Power I have been issued worked well enough for me to 'frighten the s__t' out of any Figure 11 target I have encountered.
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Old 22-12-13, 23:54
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The Inglis hipower magazines have always been a sore point with this handgun. Rumour from sources in the know blamed improper heat treating of the Inglis mag feed lips. However, in the last bunch of years, the LCMMs have been buying new magazines from FN which solves the problem.

Another culprit is the procedure of simply swapping a bad mag around until it finds a gun it works in, or else tossing all the mags (good and bad) back into the box after a day at the ranges. Mags are worth what: $20? Bad ones should be segregated and de-commisioned at the range.

While the Inglis certainly can be improved on, it is overall a tough pistol that has done it's job for almost 70 years, and may well be around for another 10 the way things are going.
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Old 23-12-13, 14:07
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Guys,

Whatever the Border Services is getting as a sidearm is fine by me. The important thing is they get the proper training. More police officers and security personel get harmed with their own sidearm in accidental discharge events than bad guys.

As for the Canadian Forces, I have had a love affaire with the BHP ever since we got the new mags , it has given sterling service.

Yes there was always a problem with the magazines. The bad one were never retired and always came back to pest us.

I should point out that i am of the opinion that it is a weapon of last resort when your service weapon is jammed or lost in combat.

Because of the limited range and efectiveness of the 9mm round, the pistol is considered of limited use for combat use.

The military police are just that, police. They should have reliable and efficient sidearms.

It is an age old debate.

Over are the days when pistols were considered as a status symbol for officers. As soon as snipers started targetting opponents wearing pistols, officers started hiding or discarding them.

So , the real question i am trowing in the debate : Do we really need pistols in combat ?

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