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Old 07-03-14, 09:55
Maurice Donckers Maurice Donckers is offline
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Phil thanks , but one of the side bins is still there , just the bottom piece is missing , but from the pictures in this post I can figure them out .and will copy one for the other side,
By the way the floor is made from checker plate , not the type as in the pictures in this post .
Next bit will be the 1 gallon can holders for under the rear of the body , when these are done the body can go on the finished chassis . Are there drawings available from these holders?I have seen copies in the past in France.
Will take some pictures next week .
The vehicle base collor is Brown , scratched paint away on the front , and there seem to be remains of markings there , will try to save them .
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Old 07-03-14, 22:10
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Hi Maurice

W Rear Holder Box.jpg

Are these the critters? I replaced the original holder boxes on mine because they had been flattened and straightened out to many times. So I have the originals sitting on the shelf, I think I did CAD drawings of them I'll look. Failing that I'll just measure and photograph mine for you to work from.

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Old 07-03-14, 22:26
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Default Pow can holders - hup

I used these diagrams to make up 10 sets of these beasts.

I welded up a set of them for my 45 HUP, so I still have eight spares (unwelded) here at the Hammond Barn, just south of the glaciers pushing from the north and just east of the frozen Great Lakes, in Canada.
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Old 07-03-14, 23:28
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Hi Richard

As with many CMP parts there are variations, and differences in how they were made. I suspect that a lot of these small assemblies were given to small subcontractors and how they were made was best suited to what that contractor had equipment to do. They may even have been slightly modified to make use of left over steel stock trimmed from larger parts.

The result is your box and the one on my `45 HUP are slightly different in dimensions and method of assembly mine box is all formed from a single piece of steel. The computer just turned up my CAD drawing for the mine, Ok got a file format I can post to MLU.

HUP Wheel Choke Box V3.jpg

Will photo graph my boxes tomorrow.

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Old 08-03-14, 02:20
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great , thanks for all the info , I can see the remains from were they were welded on to the body , so have to go on from there .
It is also nice that everybody helps somebody else to keep the historical value upright for these vehicles with a certain character.
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Old 08-03-14, 02:40
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...As with many CMP parts there are variations, and differences in how they were made. I suspect that a lot of these small assemblies were given to small subcontractors and how they were made was best suited to what that contractor had equipment to do. They may even have been slightly modified to make use of left over steel stock trimmed from larger parts.

The result is your box and the one on my `45 HUP are slightly different in dimensions and method of assembly mine box is all formed from a single piece of steel. The computer just turned up my CAD drawing for the mine, Ok got a file format I can post to MLU. ...Cheers Phil
Phil, There is no doubt that SBMA contracts were spread out to ensure a continuous supply of material for the assembly line, and thus there were differing designs and methods of manufactur. I have examples of both your design and the design I ended up copying. Bottom line is that no one can say with certainty that one design was correct, the other incorrect.

I encourage all HUPsters to use the design that works for them. The world is a better place when another HUP hits the road.
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Old 08-03-14, 14:52
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Default Variances II or is it XVI

Hi Richard

Whole heartily agree with you "I encourage all HUPsters to use the design that works for them. The world is a better place when another HUP hits the road."

What different items on CMPs have we seen with manufacturing variations:
  1. Battery box covers - single piece of steel vs two
  2. Battery hold downs - various configurations at least 3
  3. Lower battery box - single piece of steel vs two or more
  4. Running board steps - there is an old thread on MLU showing how step was made our of two sections of diamond plate salvaged from the wheel arch cut outs.
  5. Different types of blackout headlights
  6. Side curtain design
Some of these are obviously running manufacturing changes or improvement others were ongoing variances done to make better use of material or manufacturing capacity.

Who can think of more?


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