You know you want one! M113A1 for sale

[David Dunlop]

Interesting thread! It made me think of a similar story about 20 years ago involving a fleet of US Army half tracks that had been sitting somewhere in Germany for decades until someone in Washington realized they were there and decided to get rid of them. MVPA ran a series of articles about them and the efforts to have them released to collectors, but IIRC the powers that be deemed them too dangerous to be released to the civilian market and I think Germany ended up hauling them off to a range somewhere to be used for target practice. There was apparently a large related store of spare parts but I do not know what ever became of them.

David

[Frank v R]

as I remember the Halftracks were in France and were all M-16's less the quad mount turret , these all ended up on the range , last time I was at Farnham one week there 60-70 113's next week 0 ,

[Robert Bergeron]

Frank,

I remember seeing those (50-60 ) M-113's assembled in a field in Farnham, Qc Canada from a couple of years ago. Rumour was at the time they were going for foreign aid to some african country.

Last fall when i returned to Farnham for annual weapons qualification they were gone !

Anyone on this net know where they have gone ?

It is getting harder to have access to ex-military equipment in Canada.Last vehicules we could buy were the Iltis 1/4 ton truck and they are very thin skinned and rust thru easily.

Because of all the Treaties Canada has adhered to and signed , i am of the opinion that it is the End of CONTEMPORARY MILITARY VEHICULE COLLECTING. Frustrating to say the least.

a LITTLE CONTROVERSY to spark comments here...



Robert

[rob love]

If you thought the Iltis was bad, just wait until the DND unleashes the LSVW on you. They are now in the initial stages of divestment. No idea though if they will be sold to the public. If they are, you'll hear about it, but mostly because the brakes squeal worse than anything else on the road.


There will always be small numbers sneak out of any vehicle type, often as write offs thru the scrap yards. It takes very devoted collectors to try and un-do the damage to these vehicles when the DND decides they are beyond economical repair.

[Frank v R]

sorry to tell you Rob , you will not see the LS , last trip to Pet , 2 Horse had their compound full of LS, HL, and ML's going to the chipper, also G-wagon will never come out, you will all need to wait for the Milcot's, does anyone know of anything new in the pipeline to replace all these vehicles, pray we don't get into another shooting war, the only good transport still in the system will be the MK 4 CB and don't wear them out!

[David Dunlop]

When 2PPCLI were still based here in Winnipeg, there was a vehicle in service members of the Regt referred to as "the Italian Bread Truck". I think it might have been built/assembled out West somewhere. Anyone know what it actually was, if it is still in service, or if it ever made it through Crown Assets to the civvies market?

David

[Frank v R]

you are speaking of the LSVW, we had a different name for them , please no one take offence , we called them wop wagons , they are Fiats, assembled by Western Star Trucks in BC, we thought they were bad , then came the CF version of the G-wagon , too bad we bought that one, the old ones were solid dumb trucks , easy to fix in the field , soft top G-wagons were in the comp. to replace the M-38A1's but they chose the Iltis with a gas engine , the LSVW was also a simple diesel, no electronics, now you can't fix any of the new wheeled vehicles in the field, polish those combat boots,

[maple_leaf_eh]

Originally Posted by rob love

If you thought the Iltis was bad, just wait until the DND unleashes the LSVW on you. They are now in the initial stages of divestment. No idea though if they will be sold to the public. If they are, you'll hear about it, but mostly because the brakes squeal worse than anything else on the road.


There will always be small numbers sneak out of any vehicle type, often as write offs thru the scrap yards. It takes very devoted collectors to try and un-do the damage to these vehicles when the DND decides they are beyond economical repair.

I had a conversation with a manager of surplus sales, while he was inspecting a 4-colour printing press we will be putting up for auction very soon. After a bit, we got around to talking about LSVWs. Someone in the disposals office came to their senses when one or two LS's sold for thousands of dollars. Why get $80 or $100 when people are anxious to buy them for seventy-five or a hundred times more? No more to the scrappers, and most of the remaining few thousand will be sold off as the market will bear.

[rob love]

Originally Posted by maple_leaf_eh

I had a conversation with a manager of surplus sales, while he was inspecting a 4-colour printing press we will be putting up for auction very soon. After a bit, we got around to talking about LSVWs. Someone in the disposals office came to their senses when one or two LS's sold for thousands of dollars. Why get $80 or $100 when people are anxious to buy them for seventy-five or a hundred times more? No more to the scrappers, and most of the remaining few thousand will be sold off as the market will bear.

Still plenty heading to the prisons for dismantling. Since any replacement has been moved at least 5 years down the road (likely even further), the cannibalization is the selected method to keep the fleet going. Don't think for even a second that the $5,000 selling price would even equal even a shoebox full of selected parts for these vehicles if we had to have them made new.

If they had really come to their senses, they would have started releasing MLVWs again instead of sending them to the prisons for destruction.

[Ryan Harriman]

Originally Posted by rob love

Still plenty heading to the prisons for dismantling. Since any replacement has been moved at least 5 years down the road (likely even further), the cannibalization is the selected method to keep the fleet going. Don't think for even a second that the $5,000 selling price would even equal even a shoebox full of selected parts for these vehicles if we had to have them made new.

If they had really come to their senses, they would have started releasing MLVWs again instead of sending them to the prisons for destruction.

You should see the rows of HLVW's, MLVW's and various other things lined up at the Corcan waiting to be chopped up for parts.