Another (suspected) F22 found

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Tony Wheeler

It seems to me we've been led astray here by the flimsiest of flimsy evidence, namely the word "Jersey" pencilled on the contract card. This vehicle has been the subject of speculation for decades, including by experts like Hanno and the late Peter Ford, and yet in all that time it seems no one has been willing to consider the possibility it was delivered to India. Why is that so? The reality is it was CONTRACTED to India, and even if some of those 350 chassis WERE diverted, why would we assume this was one of them? The fact that it turned up in the UK around 1960 means nothing. I imagine RA units brought back scores of vehicles from India after WWII, invariably the newest ones.

Not so much speculation: I try to base my research on period sources or well-researched and documented sources.

Regarding shipments, diversions and assembly: do you have access to Wheels & Tracks magazine? I would recommend the following issues to anyone who wants to get a good understanding about vehicle shipments and assembly across the globe during WW2:

PS: in fact ALL W&T CMP articles are worthwhile reading material for anyone interested in CMP vehicles

ISSUE No. 37 (October 1991)
CMP Assembly Overseas - Re-assembly of knocked-down Canadian Military Pattern vehicles.

ISSUE No. 38 (January 1992)
Trucks for Albania and Yugoslavia - Transport provided by UNRRA for relief work in 1945/46.

ISSUE No. 41 (October 1992)
India's Ford Wheeled Carriers - Canadian Ford Quad 4×4 chassis with Indian armoured hulls.
Wheeled Carriers, NZ Pattern - New Zealand version of Indian armoured carrier, narrated by Jeff Plowman.

ISSUE No. 55 (April 1996)
Canadian Disposals and Returns - Canada-Europe; some vehicles did it twice.
The Dutch Inheritance (1) - Deelen Demob Vehicle Park.
The Dutch Inheritance (2) - The Enschede Dump.
Holland's Vehicle Parks - Soesterberg: 1 VP, Stroe: 2 VP.

ISSUE No. 56 (July 1996)
Surplus MVs for UNRRA - Part 1: Transport for Albania, Austria, Czechoslovakia, Germany.

H.

[Tony Wheeler]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Not so much speculation: I try to base my research on period sources or well-researched and documented sources.

Apologies Hanno, poor choice of wording on my part. I've amended "speculation" to "investigation". Your research is indeed extremely rigorous and entirely evidence based, with an admirable avoidance of jumping to conclusions. I've also done you quite an injustice in suggesting that "in all that time it seems no one has been willing to consider the possibility it was delivered to India." That's simply not true in your case, so I've amended the entire paragraph accordingly.

At this stage I don't have access to Wheels & Track mags so my CMP education is sadly lacking in many areas. In due course I hope to start a collection so I'll look out for the editions you mention.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Tony Wheeler

At this stage I don't have access to Wheels & Track mags so my CMP education is sadly lacking in many areas. In due course I hope to start a collection so I'll look out for the editions you mention.

I will try to scan the most relevant articles, will need to take the magazines out of their binders first.
Or else check out ebay, often people are offering their unwanted issues. Not expensive and well worth having an properly printed copy.

H.

[lynx42]

Originally Posted by Hanno Spoelstra

Or else check out ebay, often people are offering their unwanted issues. Not expensive and well worth having an properly printed copy.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/WHEELS-AND-T...item4d17fecace

Most copies available from this mob. Many other issues at varying prices from other vendors as well.

Regards Rick.

[Tony Wheeler]

Thanks very much Hanno and Rick. I've just emailed the seller requesting the issues you suggested Hanno. Don't worry about scanning the articles until I hear back from him.

Cheers,
Tony

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Tony Wheeler

Thanks very much Hanno and Rick. I've just emailed the seller requesting the issues you suggested Hanno. Don't worry about scanning the articles until I hear back from him.

Tony,

At that price you you might as well consider buying ALL W&T's with CMP articles (click to follow link).

Rick, thanks for the heads up.

Hanno

[Tony Wheeler]

Good idea Hanno, will do! Thanks again, I'll let you know how I go.