Heads Up: Sherman for sale

[rob love]

It was my understanding that the Stug was a Shilo artifact, on loan to Calgary and was sold to a US colelctor by Calgary. It has since travelled to the UK or Europe.

I believe Borden traded a Stuart for the quad 50 half track.

I could be wrong as I was just on the periphery during these trades. I talked with the curator at Borden back in the day just as they got the quad 50 in. I believe it was around 1981 or possibly 84/85 time period.

The museum I am associated with has got a lot better about trying to keep track of it's artifacts, and having the holders of loans verify the locations more often. Things like artillery pieces tend to get moved around (ie from a base to an armoury) on nothing more than a discussion and a drink at the mess by higher ups, sometimes with no regard as to where the piece came from in the first place. Next thing the armouries closes, or gets offered some other shiny trinket and off goes the artifact.

[David Dunlop]

Was that the Stug that used to sit near the entrance road to Shilo, across from a Long Tom, many years back?

David

[rob love]

Originally Posted by David Dunlop

Was that the Stug that used to sit near the entrance road to Shilo, across from a Long Tom, many years back?

David

Before my time. Apparently there was another german tank artifact (I think a second Stug) here that went back with the Bundeswher. Details are not known, but it is thought it may have been a trade for the more modern Kanonenjagdpanzer.

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

The 'common knowledge' here in Ontario (and I ain't no lawyer) is that Easy 8 Shermans and 25 pounders distributed for monuments were never struck off strength. That is entirely different than surplus that went through Crown Assets. Canadian Ferrets were sold with the condition recipients would never apply to have them certified as street legal. The problem with that is there was no way of enforcing that upon a second owner.

I also know Don Smith was very concerned about DND perfecting a claim on CAROL despite him insisting he had clear title given the trades and work he did for the Borden museum.

[chris vickery]

Watching this thread with interest, I would think that any prospective buyer would certainly want a legally binding document from the Canadian Government as to the dispostion of said artifact. Going by he said / she said and / we made a deal etc is simply not enough in anyone's books to see a deal on this as secure...
Thats why we have things like vehicle registration, mortgage/home titles/ land deeds etc in this country. Proof of ownership on anything lies upon the person/ group /club etc which possesses it at the moment.
Also, just because something has been in your possession for a number of years does not neccessarily make it yours.

[rob love]

I note the Sherman is no longer on the CS website.

[peter simundson]

CS had two serious offers for the Tank.

Both out of country.

PS