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Old 09-07-15, 17:40
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So is anyone still doing this ?
Yes, but it is not as easy as people think.

Your MOTORCYCLE MEDIUM 485CC ARMSTRONG MT500 (OBSOLETE) is Canadian Forces Registration 1986 78553; serial number MTEC0060; disposed by CFB Calgary (HUIC 0109).

CFR No Departure Arrival HUIC Unit
78553* 16-Nov-95 08-Feb-91 2122* 1 MP Pl
78553* 08-Feb-91 17-Jan-89 1763* 1 RCHA
78553* 17-Jan-89 15-Jul-86 0103* CFB Esquimalt

It had a fairly uneventful life on the Prairies, except for one brief fling in 2R22eR`s Maintenance Section which lists the user unit as 2 MP Pl.

Now that you know the CFR, spend $5 for an Access to Information report on everything the system has.
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- 53-71233 M100CDN trailer

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Old 09-07-15, 18:16
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I never figured it was easy. I thought it was impossible. Many thanks for your efforts. Is there a special way to word the access to information request so I get all the info?

Thanks again
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Old 10-07-15, 03:58
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http://www.tbs-sct.gc.ca/tbsf-fsct/350-57-eng.asp

Department will be Department of National Defence.

Information sought will be copies of all records regarding former Canadian Forces motorcycle, Canadian Forces Registration number 1986 #####, manufacturer's serial number ###XXXXX. Information likely to be found on the Electronic Data Registry (EDR).

Delivery format, electronic copies of screen displays.
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- 53-71233 M100CDN trailer

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Old 17-07-15, 00:15
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Default Cfr 86214

Curious about any information about this ILTIS. It is the only one in town and is up for sale.
CFR 86214

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M38 CDN 52-31093
M38A1 CDN 53-32350
M38A1 CDN-2 67-08251 2MP PL
M38A1 CDN-3 70-08650 Windsor Regt
M38A1 CDN 3 71-09013- Project
M-100 Trailer 52-70078
M-100 Trailer 53-70177
LOSV Alpine 83-49816- Project
LOSV Alpine 85-76533
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Old 17-07-15, 00:23
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Don't do it!!!
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1968 M274A5 Mule Baifield USMC
1966 M274A2 Mule BMY USMC
1966 M274A2 Mule BMY USMC
1958 M274 Mule Willys US Army
1970 M38A1 CDN3 70-08715 1 CSR
1943 Converto Airborne Trailer
1983 M1009 CUCV
1957 Triumph TRW 500cc

RT-524, PRC-77s,
and trucks and stuff and more stuff and and.......

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Old 17-07-15, 17:12
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Curious about any information about this ILTIS. It is the only one in town and is up for sale.
CFR 86214

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B85 class vehicle
ECC code 121501
TRK UTIL LT ILTIS,
total qty purchased 2386,
CFR 1984 - 86214 is serial number BI01-12-84-86214,
Disposed by CFB Kingston 28 Nov 2005.

The EDR is tempermental, and availability can be sporadic. With this information, it is possible to do a $5 Access to Information search for all records associated with the CFR and SN. Some decoding of the jargon and abbreviations will be required, but you will see the same information (or more) as shown on the EDR.
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- 74-????? M151A2
- 70-08876 M38A1
- 53-71233 M100CDN trailer

Beware! The Green Disease walks among us!

Last edited by maple_leaf_eh; 17-07-15 at 21:19. Reason: wrong year on CFR; was 86 s/b 84
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Old 30-07-15, 21:57
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B85 class vehicle
ECC code 121501
TRK UTIL LT ILTIS,
total qty purchased 2386,
CFR 1984 - 86214 is serial number BI01-12-84-86214,
Disposed by CFB Kingston 28 Nov 2005.

The EDR is tempermental, and availability can be sporadic. With this information, it is possible to do a $5 Access to Information search for all records associated with the CFR and SN. Some decoding of the jargon and abbreviations will be required, but you will see the same information (or more) as shown on the EDR.
Terry, can you suggest appropriate text to use in the Access to Information Request that would result in the most useful information. I know there is always a danger of being too specific, and of being too vague. Would it be useful to specify all information as contained in the EDR on the given CFR?

Can one ask for multiple CFR information in the same Access to Information Request?

Your thoughts?

Stuart
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Old 31-07-15, 04:25
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The form is simple. The question has to be one that a complete stranger and bureaucrat will understand. Give the person as much information which department has what you need, which part of the big machine, and where you believe it will be found. Like I posted somewhere earlier, give them the CFR, vehicle type, and the serial number if known.

So, key words would be:

Department of National Defence, ADM (MAT), I would like all maintenance and user information on file for CFR 70-08876, M38A1 CDN 3 "Jeep", serial number believed to be 3453453453235345. Records are likely found on the EDR (Equipment Data Registry?). Response in pdf format on hard copy.

Pay your $5 by cheque to the Receiver General of Canada, or on line with a credit card.
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