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Old 20-09-15, 23:30
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Hi David,

Transformer Olive Drab- Now that's another interesting name for a colour. If the can was from the eighties it may have been used to paint kids' toys!

All joking aside, the current Australian Army Olive Drab, US Federal Standards 595B colour 34088, is close numerically to WW2 US Olive Drab which is colour 34087.

I checked my 1984 edition of FS 595a which is a reference book of all colours used by the US government at that time. Surprisingly colour chip 34088 was not listed then.

From FS 595a: "The last three digits indicate the approximate order of increasing (diffuse) reflectance and are assigned non-consecutively to provide numbers between for future use."
Basically as the last three digits of the chips gets higher the colour gets lighter so today's Australian FS 34088 Olive Drab would be lighter (more reflectance) than WW2 US Olive Drab FS 34087.

It doesn't answer any questions about Australian WW2 Khaki Green but it may be of interest to members for the present day comparisons.

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Old 21-09-15, 11:16
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You guys are making my head spin, and that's without spraying the can and getting a snoz full! Do I understand correctly, that my paint is current usage in ADF?

I think the description of my paint being 'lustreless' is a good term to use. Spray techniques can vary that, but I suspect a few weeks out in the sun will dull to a further degree. In fact, I'm counting on it, as it's what I plan to do (fine weather permitting, naturally!). Vehicle will be garaged nocte. Color looks dramatically different with oil or grease applied (or accidentally spilt, to be honest).

Jacques, I found that seat base we were talking about, but it is completely Foxtrot'd. Only useful for testing efficiency of tetnus injections, I'm afraid. I did get a number of springs off the back though. I have made enquiries with another source, for a seat. Not heard back yet. What sort of timeframe does that fellow need it by? I'll keep my eyes open for one (attached to vehicle/s) in my travels, starting Wednesday. GPS tells me I'm in for 1700km drive from here. Oh boy. I'm afraid my long distance driving stamina has run out years ago. I shall need Jerry Reed (c'mon you remember the song) playing in a loop, the whole way.
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Old 21-09-15, 11:55
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Hi Tony,

That is correct. Your can of Protec Lusterless OD is the current Australian Army colour so it is different to the Protec KG3 that I believe is on file for tinting up. Perfect match for a 80's onwards Land Rover though.

It still beats having to fire up the touch up gun just for a few parts that may never see the light of day. I don't intend to fully repaint my vehicle KG J, just the most obvious visible areas. Haven't got enough years left in my life to do the whole thing. As Gina mentioned quite often vehicles had different paints on different parts due to parts replacement, using up old paint stocks, repainting, etc so a uniform colour on everything is not necessarily correct anyway.

Thanks for that search for the seat base. Don't think he is in a hurry so if you ever come across one in the future he still would be interested.

Have a safe trip down here to Vic. and enjoy the tour of Bandiana Army Museum with your son.

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Old 24-09-15, 14:16
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After a 1700km road journey which started yesterday morning, I'm back in Bandiana visiting my Son, and hand delivering his car. It handled the drive well, but will need a REALLY good exterior clean before I hand over the keys for the last time, on Saturday. Man, there are some insect corpses on the front! Had the foresight to wax it thoroughly before departing on the trip. Tomorrow will show whether that had any positive effect on the debugging process.
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This evening I picked up Bryce, and spent an all too brief period, shopping in Albury. I think he's taller now than he was when we saw him several months ago. Of course, I'm getting shorter. We will get together again tomorrow night, I hope. There is a slim possibility that he may be restricted to base over the weekend, along with the others in his unit, but I pray this doesn't happen. It's a long way to come to just hand over a car and then head for home again.

Assuming all goes well, Bryce and I will both tour the Bandiana Military Museum on Saturday morning. I will go alone, if need be, but that would hugely diminish the enjoyment. Either way, I WILL BE viewing this museum, FINALLY. Third time is a charm, unless I suddenly develop an acute case of appendicitis, or similarly incapacitating ailment. That would surely bugger up the museum visit because i have only booked for 2 people, and I doubt they would make an exception to accomodate a duo of paramedics.

The trip down was largely uneventful, though it did make me realise how REALLY ugly some of our native vegetation is. About 600km into the voyage, I entered an area which I think I would best describe as 'depressing'. I don't mean any offence to our scrub land, but it looked like it desperately needed a damn good combing. You know, the plant version of getting a marginal haircut, then walking out into a strong wind. Unkempt!
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Contrast that description with the above. What is this crop? At one point I came over a hill and the entire landscape was this color. Breathtaking, and surreal. Only the house yards were green, everything else this wonderful bright color.
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Now THIS is a beautiful landscape, but not nearly as widespread as the previous photo. Of course, my version of beauty is very slightly askew, but who doesn't find 50s and 60s heavy iron appealing, even if it is in captivity.
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Made a slight detour off route, to visit The Dish. What a grand old sight it is too. Spent several hunderd dollars on the mandatory souvenirs, then went outside to get a few shots of the radio telescope itself. Now, I don't like the heat, but the other extreme isn't much more attractive. The wind was howling, and it was cold enough to freeze the nuts of a macadamia tree! The train is in Parkes itself. Quite an interesting town, with a lot to see / visit. Maybe another time.

I would normally post all this on Bryces thread, but I recently asked Hanno to remove it from view. I want to be absolutely positive I don't have anything in that thread which could be used to my Sons detriment, and the only way I be sure is to get rid of the whole thing. Welcome to the 21st century, I guess.
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Old 24-09-15, 15:04
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The yellow crop is canola, it used to be called rape seed at one time. Don't know why they changed it.
That wild unkempt area you passed through on the Newell Highway would be the Pilliga Scrub. Not the sort of place to have a breakdown at night.

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Old 24-09-15, 21:27
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You'll LOVE the Bandiana museum Tony, I really hope Bryce can be with you.

Looking forward to hearing your impressions.
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Old 24-09-15, 21:34
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The yellow crop is canola, it used to be called rape seed at one time. Don't know why they changed it.
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The name change was necessary because of buyer resistance, women wouldn't buy rape oil for cooking.
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The name change was necessary because of buyer resistance, women wouldn't buy rape oil for cooking.
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Still called rape in England, the name canola is not used.
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Old 25-09-15, 00:07
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Assuming all goes well, Bryce and I will both tour the Bandiana Military Museum on Saturday morning.
Sounds like you are having a good trip Tony, glad that you are catching up with Bryce.

Have you checked that the Bandiana Museum is open? Last I heard was that you had to make an appointment, listing with ID.all those entering the military base.

Hopefully you will get in, and if you do, please give my WWI Albion a pat for me. I haven't seen it for a while.

Regards rick.
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Old 25-09-15, 07:04
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I'll never look at canola oil the same way now. So many potentially inappropriate quips, must use self discipline.

Will do, Rick. I booked the museum visit a week ago. You are correct about it being closed to general public, so far as walk in traffic is concerned. The sign on main road still says Open To The Public, which is a little misleading. Wish it was on the outside of the base, so changes in security level would not have such disappointing effect. I drove past Gaza Ridge this morning, on my way to Wadsworth, and saw two motorhomes turning in to the carpark. I hope THEY had bookings.
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I really like the toys they leave laying around here.
They missed an opportunity by not putting an info plaque on each tank. The only signs say Do Not Climb. Guys at the gate to the base were OK with me taking photos. I promised I would not take any in the direction of the base.

I know it will sound juvenile, but I can have trouble sleeping the night before anything exciting. This happened before I left home, again the night before I arrived at Albury, and no doubt will happen again tonight. Bryce can understate things, and even HE is greatly impressed about the museum! When Bryce is finished work and cleaned up, I will take him out for a meal somewhere. That will be when I know if he is able to leave base this weekend.
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Old 26-09-15, 10:44
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We both went to the museum this morning. The building, when inside, reminded me of the warehouse scene at end of the first Indiana Jones movie, but without the boxes. It seemed to go on forever. Three CMPs, two were Fords. One even had the canvas covered doors, so I took a number of reference shots.
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I took a lot of photos. I can start a Bandiana Museum thread, if anyone is interested in seeing more of them. Some have a degree of light flare in them, due to placement of the high up windows and my inability to overcome that.
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