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Hello
Its nice to see a discussion about plates etc. There are lots of good points brought up. If you want to read the actual law it can be found on e-laws Ontario under the Highway Traffic Act. I have "Year or Manufacture" (YOM) plates on my WW2 Jeep. (These are original Ontario issue licence plates issued the year of the manufactured date of the vehicle) The vehicle must meet the classification of an Historic vehicle but the plates permit me to do anything as they are a regular plates. You can still get Historical vehicle insurance, which will create conditions to taking the vehicle out. Historic plates create limitations on the use of the vehicle (not for everyday use) but you have a reduced registration fee. The OMVA and other auto clubs were part of the Ontario Specialty Car Association when a joint submission was made to obtain Historic plates and later Year of Manufacture plates. Year of manufacture plates are still not permitted on trailers... I know as I tried. The clubs are encouraged to do their own policing and to make sure their members follow the rules, which we pushed for. I.e not putting historic or YOM plates on a modified vehicle (eg. hot rod) (which is not a historic vehicle). Not putting YOM plates as decoration on a vehicle which already has a valid licence plate attached etc. Violating the historic or YOM plates usage actually does discredit to the clubs that fought to get them for members. (They also have consequences if stopped by the police, charges of misuse of plate, plates seized, vehicle towed etc.) CFR, DND, WD numbers will never be permitted as they were never as an Ontario vehicle registration. When required DND used Ontario issued licence plates prior to the DND plates. You need to mail in the original plates for verification prior to MTO approving it. If you want to use a WD/ DND number you can buy the vanity plates with that number ... but the issued plates must be attached to the vehicle. Painting it on the vehicle will not be accepted. Those with vehicles that are not plated such as carriers drive on the road at their own peril. They are not deemed as construction equipment, implement of husbandry etc., so they also do not meet the criteria for plates, or vehicle insurance. If caught on the road outside of an official parade, the driver/owner could be charged with no plates ($110.00) , no insurance (minimum of $3,000.00 fine) and incur a tow fee amongst other things. If involved in a collision then civil action can also take place by the other party or those injured. You won't have a leg to stand on. just my feedback and reinforcement of comments made by a few others in earlier posts. thanks Eric
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Collecting data on the WW2 Canadian jeep and trailer. Serial, WD Numbers etc. |
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Greg,
You obviously can't be a bad guy as you are into Land Rovers like myself.Can you PM or email me please? I am insured through Lant and their policy but I have regular plates. I recently had an OPP officer talk to a bunch of farmers at a farm related event, real nice guy and really knew his HTA and the various over riding clauses and sections. Eric B you would have enjoyed him. Robin
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Robin Craig Home of the Maple Leaf Adapter 2 Canadian Mk1 Ferrets Kawasaki KLR250 CFR 95-10908 ex PPCLI Canadair CL70 CFR 58-91588 Armstrong MT500 serial CFR 86-78530 Two Canam 250s Land Rover S3 Commanders Caravan Carawagon 16 GN 07 Trailer Cargo 3/4 T 2WHD 38 GJ 62 |
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Got the PM Greg
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Robin Craig Home of the Maple Leaf Adapter 2 Canadian Mk1 Ferrets Kawasaki KLR250 CFR 95-10908 ex PPCLI Canadair CL70 CFR 58-91588 Armstrong MT500 serial CFR 86-78530 Two Canam 250s Land Rover S3 Commanders Caravan Carawagon 16 GN 07 Trailer Cargo 3/4 T 2WHD 38 GJ 62 |
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Well, I have been associated with many friends who own and operate vintage and classic cars. Most have historic vehicle plates on their vehicles, but not all.
They rally at local Tim's or A&W and go out for a 'toot' and a tour. However, for us MV owners that is not really something we do just on a regular basis, going out for an organized 'toot'. Parades and events are mostly what we do I believe. Historic vehicle plates have lowered my overhead, yes, but then again we don't go swanning off with one of our MV's for a leisurely drive through the countryside on a beautiful September Sunday morning either. |
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My two cents worth on the original question of HV plate or not.........my understanding is that a regular plate in Ontario requires seat belts and flashing indicators to name but two requirements. Neither are fitted to a '42 jeep so no choice? Anyway, if you only drive about 100 miles a year, $100 insurance versus $500 seems to make sense.
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David,
A motor vehicle in Ontario needs to have the lights & equipment that it was built with to pass the safety inspection needed to obtain plates. If something safety related is added it needs to be in working condition. |
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Yes, but you need to pass the safety anyway even to get historic plates - I was talking about getting regular plates.
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