CMPs at the Dutch National Military Museum

[Maurice Donckers]

Hello Hanno , The Quad was comming from the French Army , at the same time one went to the Pourville Dieppe museum. They where in mint condition.

And another thing , the sidelights on the Danish ones are M series lights , and on the French ones they are Marchall copies from US WW2 style

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Maurice Donckers

Hello Hanno , The Quad was comming from the French Army , at the same time one went to the Pourville Dieppe museum. They where in mint condition.

And another thing , the sidelights on the Danish ones are M series lights , and on the French ones they are Marchall copies from US WW2 style

Maurice, thanks for the correction!

[Alex van de Wetering]

Hanno,

Did you take a picture of the Data plates in the C15A as well? The rear cab wall seems to be of a Wireless truck.

Alex

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Alex van de Wetering

Did you take a picture of the Data plates in the C15A as well? The rear cab wall seems to be of a Wireless truck.

No data plates present, but it does have the aperture for the speaker tube in the back of the cab.

Is the lever with PTO (see separate thread) part of the Wireless Truck configuration?

It also does not have a roof hatch (or could this be a remanufactured roof?).

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[Grant Bowker]

The spare tire carrier behind the cab is not a feature of the Wire5 (the 2K1 body had the spare tire carrier set into the left side of the body). The generator(s) for the house type Wire5 were chorehorse(s) mounted in the right, rear corner of the body - not PTO driven. Based on these differences, if the truck is completely original and not an amalgam of features from a rebuild, I would guess it is not a Wire5. I've seen so many of the rear cab walls with speaking tube opening that I have wondered if they were used on vehicles other than wireless or if it is just that as a specialized variant the wireless remained in service longer than the GS? The C15A parts list doesn't list a separate roof assembly for the wireless version But it also doesn't list separate roofs for hatchless, square hatch and round hip ring variants - so there's no help there. The wireless trucks had extensive grounding to reduce interference. Check for short braided straps joining the parts of the cab. Also check for the shielded ignition system. According to the C15A-04 parts list, another identifying feature unique to the wireless trucks seems to be that the wireless trucks used a different rifle mounting clip system on the left side in the cab parts group 16.5791 and 16.580. I have never knowingly seen these to know what the differences are from the standard versions.
Hatchless roofs were a production item, my C60X hulk has one. Any time you are more concerned with weather protection than seeing out the roof they make perfect sense.The crosswise brace inside the hatchless roof looks to be an original pattern. I don't remember having seen the two braces in the curve of the roof above the doors. They aren't on my C60X but that doesn't mean they aren't original to the C15A shown.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Grant Bowker

The spare tire carrier behind the cab is not a feature of the Wire5 (the 2K1 body had the spare tire carrier set into the left side of the body). The generator(s) for the house type Wire5 were chorehorse(s) mounted in the right, rear corner of the body - not PTO driven. Based on these differences, if the truck is completely original and not an amalgam of features from a rebuild, I would guess it is not a Wire5. I've seen so many of the rear cab walls with speaking tube opening that I have wondered if they were used on vehicles other than wireless or if it is just that as a specialized variant the wireless remained in service longer than the GS?

Agree with the WIRE-5, but what if it was a WIRE-1 / Fitted For Wireless (FFW) version, the one based on the standard 15-cwt cargo body?

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[Grant Bowker]

I agree that the tire carrier fits with Wire1 but think the chorehorse on the running board argues against the PTO driving a generator.
I also need to look at the information on the water tank body to see if it had PTO pump as well as hand pumps.

[Hanno Spoelstra]

One CMP which is no longer on display in the new museum building is the Otter Light Reconnaissance Car.

In the Netherlands Army (RNLA) the Otter was used mainly for reconnaissance and driving courses. After replacing them by other vehicles, the RNLA transferred a number of Otters to the Royal Military Police (Koniklijke Marechaussee) which used them until 1970. The origin of this vehicle is unknown, but it did not serve in the RNLA.

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[Maurice Donckers]

The C60L also came from the French army , at the same time as the Quad.