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Old 13-01-16, 02:17
Peter Duggan Peter Duggan is offline
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Guys,

Made a visit last week to the CWM to firm up my dimensions for the battery boxes and the armour for the fuel tanks. Michael Miller has been extremely accommodating for these visits and always has something worthwhile on the go. While these items are being fabricated I decided to turn my hand to the electrical systems.

While I am a novice at the mechanical components, electrical work is going to be a real stretch. I built a temporary table to lay out the old wiring to better understand it. Now to order the correct period wiring. Does anyone know of a supplier they would recommend? Was able to clean up and salvage the original battery cut off switch and had a new box fabricated. Slow progress, but it is progress.

Peter

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Old 13-01-16, 07:51
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Peter is your old harness complete?
If it is, it will be expensive but Vintage Wiring of Maine can likely build a repro for you. I think all they need is your old harness, a schematic and any details for added or deleted components.
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Old 13-01-16, 14:55
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Hi Peter

There have been several past threads on topic of building wiring harnesses. You have already discovered one of best tips, lay out the harness on a sheet of plywood. All of the cloth cover wire with trace patterns, ends and even the braiding sources are avaliable. The cost is not bad I've made a number of CMP harness over the years and the end cost of each was less than or equel than buying a harness for modern truck of similar size.

Here are some of the past threads:

http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ghlight=wiring

http://www.canadianmilitarypattern.c...nformation.htm

http://www.canadianmilitarypattern.c...%20Harness.htm

I have used Vintage Wiring of Maine as a source of wire and of having the cloth braided cover put on. He will sell you the wire by the foot, it is modern copper wire with vynel wire insulation with cloth cover with the correct color trace covering. The other company that I have used with good success is Rhode Island Wiring Service http://www.riwire.com/

Good luck and keep us posted.

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Old 14-01-16, 02:49
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Chris and Phil,

Thanks for the suggestions, particularly the sources for wiring. Budget was definitely a factor, but the biggest, if I am successful, will be able to do it on my own. The braiding will be a different hurdle.

I do have one additional question. I've attached a picture of what my manuals call "C19SR -12250 - circuit breaker - ignition coil and resistor assembly". I am replacing the distorted insulator base and the components themselves. I have been able to acquire a few pieces of the assembly from LWD parts, but any idea where I could source the remainder? Speaking of which, is every thing OK with the Leegwaters? I have not received any replies to recent emails.

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Old 14-01-16, 03:54
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Check Macs Auto Parts in NY for those items.
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Old 14-01-16, 10:49
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Hi mate,

I think i am right when i read about the braid, if so, this might help.

Tubular, tinned copper braid is all over ebay, you just need to use the right search terms (and avoid the wrong ones!).

Copper braid got me 3870 listings! Too many. I saw most were bracelets and 1 cent coins.

But then: copper braid -cent -wrist -bracelet got me 450 listings.
(note the minus or - in front of a word deletes it from a search which is very handy in removing the unwanted things once you see them clogging up a search)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1m-3-3ft-6mm...cAAOSwMmBV0wrJ

http://www.ebay.com/itm/bgb07-1m-3-3...EAAOSwv0tVVMfs

Ive also used tinned braid, earth strap, copper strap other similar words which all yield different (or the same!) results.

Hopefully the above is of some help, if not, sorry for clogging up the thread and please keep up the good work! For someone like me who would likely never take on a project like this, i really enjoy reading about yours!

Cheers,
Ian.
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Old 14-01-16, 11:06
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Speaking of which, is every thing OK with the Leegwaters? I have not received any replies to recent emails.
Probably busy, try calling them.

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Old 14-01-16, 14:15
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Hi Peter

Braiding is not that big of a deal, both Vintage Wiring of Maine and Rhode Island Wiring will braid the cloth around harness you make up. Both have given me very quick turn around .

As to cost I'll see if I can find the total cost for the last harness I made up as a bench mark for you.

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Old 21-01-16, 02:05
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Guys,

This seems quite typical of this project, I rebuilt the circuit breaker using NOS components from LWD, reproduced components from Mac's Auto and some original parts that I was able to clean up and repair. Mounted it on a segment of conveyor belt and you'd be hard pressed to tell it from the original. Lets hope that it works, when it's ultimately put to the test. Also tried my hand at making a new circuit with some original wiring. Ultimately I'll have someone weave new looms.

Peter

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