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Old 25-01-16, 00:31
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The big push today was to refinish/refurbish the Pilot Model components. The overarching priority for me is to get the 45 HUP on the road and safetied before the new Ontario safety standards come into effect this summer. The issue being that the new safety is much more involved and detailed. http://www.autotrader.ca/newsfeature...2JQDJtXcY4V.97 It apparently relies on the mechanic inspecting components and measuring them to compare with the written standard for an individual vehicle. The problem is that there is no written standard for most CMPs. So to avoid future complications, I have been working on the newer HUP during most of the visits to the barn to prepare it for the safety inspection.

When it gets too cold outside - like today, my attention goes back the Pilot Model. The hub refurbishing process is the same as the other HUP hubs but this time I decided to totally take down the hubs to its components. The inner grease cups were removed this time to see how they were fitted. After the studs and spacers were punched out, the cup (a ring, actually that kept grease away from the brake shoes etc...) came off with not too much of a fight. The remnants of a gasket can be seen in the attached photo.

The day was spent cleaning off the gasket and the accumulated dirt, grease, oil and paint from the hubs. This was completed with a wire brush on the angle grinder, some picks, a screwdriver, a scraper and some very potent cleaning fluid. After cleaning, the hubs were treated to a phosphate shower and allowed to dry. Paint was added just before departure this afternoon.

I was going to sandblast the hubs, but this is not the season for that type of fun. The wire brush did a fairly good job, but it was tedious work. Good thing we love this hobby.

Photos:

1 - The spin ring/cup
2 - Ring and hub
3 - First coat of paint
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File Type: jpg Spin Ring.jpg (125.2 KB, 4 views)
File Type: jpg Pilot Hub.jpg (88.9 KB, 4 views)
File Type: jpg Pilot Hubs.jpg (126.1 KB, 4 views)
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Old 25-01-16, 01:32
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Hi

Having just read the link on the new standards, sounds like a move to get a lot if not all cars over 10 years old off the road, but that's not the topic of this thread.

The point is getting your vehicle past with least hassle, you point out they have nothing to measure your HUP against. But you do have bench mark to measure the quality and in depth nature of your restoration, your photos and the narrative you have posted on MLU. While you are wise to get your vehicle registered prior to the rule changes, I would not be too afraid of the standards.

Keep up the good work and the careful documentation of the restoration process.

Cheers Phil
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Old 13-02-16, 18:41
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The inside of the Pilot Model hub includes a grease cup that is designed to prevent grease and other contaminants from spotting or staining the brake mechanism that is covered by the hub. This cup employs a thin gasket to assist it in carrying out its function.

When I removed the cups (or rings if you prefer) the OEM gasket were destroyed having been either glued down or having adhered to the two mating surfaces over its several decades of use. This necessitated making new gaskets. Fortunately, Bob had a roll of paper that he had acquired a few years back that had a similar texture to the original gasket, but also had a finished inside coating. He explained that it was a waterproof membrane and that the paper was used to wrap bundles of map making paper. In any case, it was the perfect replacement for the gaskets.

The cups provided the template for cutting and the bolt holes were a perfect match for the large hole punch that we have at the barn. Two gaskets were knocked out in quick time.
pm gaskets.jpgpm both.jpg

After coating both sides with silicon gel, the gaskets were laid inside the hubs with the cups and the bolts were re-installed.
pm ring cu.jpg

One had to be careful to make sure that the splines on the bolts meshed with the cut outs inside the bolt holes and that all of the bolts threads were similar in direction - as these hubs are side dependant. After a few gentle taps with the hammer and a wooden block, most of the bolts seated nicely. The heads of the bolts secured the cups and gaskets nicely.
pm instal.jpg

The hubs were then turned over and the spacers installed. I used the wheel nuts to press the spacers into place and this also served to seat those bolts that didn't seat previously.
pm spacers.jpg

Next project: the other two hubs.
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Old 24-05-16, 01:22
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I got the hubs and brake shoes back from the brake shop. They did a great job of milling down the hubs and in putting new material on the brake shoes. They didn't have to match the linings to the hubs as the fit was great from the start.

This past weekend was nice and warm - perfect for leisurely activities such as sandblasting and painting. Up for treatment were the frame, transmission, and transfer case. The two axles will be done at a later date.

Photos:
1 - Sandblasting pit - bare frame
2 - Frame - painted
3 - Tranny
4 - Transfer case
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File Type: jpg pilot frame paint.jpg (243.0 KB, 7 views)
File Type: jpg pilot tranny.jpg (130.4 KB, 7 views)
File Type: jpg Pilot Txcase.jpg (169.3 KB, 7 views)
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Old 29-05-16, 22:11
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The temperature this morning was absolutely wonderful. Warm and dry enough to sandblast away years of paint and road dirt from the Pilot Model axles. It took two pots (four bags of grit) to do both axles. It helped that they were given a good going over with the wire brush and then washed with gasoline before sandblasting.

We noted with some amusement that the CMP metal seems to turn a shade of Airforce blue when sandblasted. I noted that the colour (rust red) the metal turns later must be from embarrassment...

After the initial blasting, care was taken to search out grease deposits that only seem to get revealed after blasting. Once scrubbed and washed, the whole axle gets a phosphorus treatment. Then comes the paint - or bug attractant, as we at the barn call it.

I have had great success with Tremclad rust paint over the years, and despite the ever increasing price of the stuff, I will continue to use it. My choice of finish for the first coat is gloss black. Given time and temperature, it binds with the exposed metal nicely, and if left outside to cure overnight, it will repel raindrops without running. It is also easy to clean before adding the green paint.

This ends the frame and drivetrain portion of this project - next step is reassembly, followed by a lot of welding on the body and roof. The engine can wait until later on.
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Old 25-08-17, 01:29
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You can count the number of rain free days this "summer" at the Hammond Barn on one hand. The weather has a heavy influence on productivity anywhere, but Ottawa seems to embrace the extreme: too hot/wet in summer, too cold/wet in winter, too wet in the springtime, leaving only autumn as the only somewhat dry/cool/reduced bug period where work really gets done. That said, this past week has been somewhat autumn-like with a good breeze blowing. Perfect Pilot Model work weather. Finally!

This stage of the refurbishing project has transitioned into the rebuild stage. The rear floor component of the truck is too far gone to restore. The only saveable piece is the curved section at the rear. So, the rear portion was removed from the front. This involved removing eight floor screws that secured the driver/pax station floor to the rear portion cross member. Then the frame had to be cut on both sides, freeing up the components.

I knew that the underside had lots of salt damage and had to cut some of the hat channel out for replacement. Once the hat channel was opened, it was evident that there was more damage on the inside of the channel than what we could see from the outside. Bob's learned opinion was that it would be impossible to weld new sections in. Reluctantly, I concurred and decided that the whole rear component (less the rear curved supporting channel) had to be replaced.

Photos:
1- Floor components joined
2- Side panels removed
3- Front nose - in surprisingly good shape!
4- Post surgery
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File Type: jpg Full Bottom Inside.jpg (498.4 KB, 5 views)
File Type: jpg Pilot floor no sides 1.jpg (372.4 KB, 4 views)
File Type: jpg Pilot front floor module 2.jpg (623.3 KB, 2 views)
File Type: jpg Full Bottom Outside.jpg (567.6 KB, 5 views)
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Old 25-08-17, 22:51
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Rob,

Excellent to see you're back to work on the Pilot HUP!
Pity there is so much rust damage to the underside...but good to hear you guys decided to fix this properly.

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