Ontario Auction

[JRRDixon]

No Connection to seller

http://www.auctionsfind.com/auction/11869

Fri Jul 1 2016 at 9:30 AM near Dundalk
Gas Engines, Tractors, Machinery, Equipment, Tools, Shop, Etc.

If you are in Ontario, Carrier CMP M38A1, M135? parts accessories.

[Gordon Yeo]

Well, isn't that disappointing. Imagine having an auction sale on July 1, like no one has any thing else to do on that day.

[lynx42]

1953 Jeep M38A1 (Ford), doors, side curtains, restored, good condition. 1954 GMC M207 Deuce & a Half (6 x 6), restored, complete with 24 volt winch, good condition. 1944 15CWT, new rubber, good cargo box, 2 gas tanks, engine runs but needs work. 1942 Universal carrier (Bren gun carrier), used in displays parades, has replacement armour, new water pumps, track jack, running order (engine showing some wear). Military style ¾ ton trailer, 9 X 16in. wheels, restored. 1944 15CWT for parts. Various artillery brass & projectiles. Dummy artillery shells. Land mine top plus other curiosities. Camouflage netting c/w stakes, poles & ropes (20 X 20ft.). “Mash style” speakers. 1940’s military foot lockers c/w snow shoes. Bren gun wooden amp box. Various ammo boxes & jerry cans. Fight knives & bayonets. Stretcher. No. 19 radio set plus 2 remotes & load speakers. Military generators (24 & 120 volt). “Tommy” hats, uniforms and webbing. Camouflage nets. Camp stove. Tank optics display (driver’s periscope & tank main gun sight). Track jack, specialty tools & spare parts, repair manuals. Brass extinguishers. Tube tester.

[lynx42]

Some of the bits.











And no I am not connected.

Rick.

[lynx42]

And some smalls too.











Have fun,

[Jim White]

What is the price range of a running, driving carrier, mostly complete and not a 100 point restoration? I'm in Ontario and interested, but completely ingnorant to value.

[rob love]

Originally Posted by Jim White

What is the price range of a running, driving carrier, mostly complete and not a 100 point restoration? I'm in Ontario and interested, but completely ingnorant to value.

Photos are not that good for the auction, and no photos of the inside so it's hard to say how complete it might be. I have seen modified garbage go for $7K+ here on the prairies, so I would suggest that if it could be had at that price and up to 14K, you would be doing OK.

Some things to consider of course are running/non-running, original engine/different engine, track condition (count the links: 168 = new, 10 less = bottom standard for military use....technically worn out), and a host of other questions. You will have to consider if your budget, time and expertise will have you replacing whatever mechanical is necessary, and then the hunt begins for parts like firing rests, smoke discharger bracket, seats, gauges, internal stowage bins etc. What is your end use? Fully restored or (heaven forbid) hunting buggy?

I wish I was closer to that auction so I could make some of those decisions myself. Alas, I have to work on Canada day, and expect it to be a 13 hour day or longer.

[Michael R.]

Auctions charge HST.

[chris vickery]

And buyers premiums

[Jack Innes]

Originally Posted by chris vickery

And buyers premiums

I have contacted the auctioneer & there will not be a buyer's premium. There will definitely be the 13% HST though.

[maple_leaf_eh]

http://www.auctionsfind.com/auction/11869 There are two photos of the Carrier. One is the familiar front quarter, showing a reasonably presentable vehicle in bronze semi-gloss green. From the track marks in the gravel and the wooden block on the back edge of the tracks, it was driven into place for the photo.

The second shows the driver's seat from the left side. The armour looks like it is bolted to angle frames, not riveted. There is a modern 5lb extinguisher under the driver's elbow, as well as a period brass extinguisher. The floor is muddy and has some twigs and litter. The seat has a second cushion. I don't see any modern switches or gauges.

These things make me think it is a running, rolling older restoration which is not necessarily Top Of The Show quality, but probably well worth the effort to bid upon.

(And I appraise houses, boats, computers, jewellery and future ex-wives via the internet. Voodoo hexes removed remotely for an extra fee.)

[charlie fitton]

Future ex wives, EH? Interesting...

I've seen this at a few shows. He has a very interesting ramp system, and he'd drive it into the back of the 2 1/2 ton.

[Ryan Harriman]

Who's heading to this auction? I'm thinking of making the trip and maybe come back with a few things.

[rob love]

So I am sure there must have been a few MLUers who made it to the sale. Can someone list some of the prices of the major items? Always good to keep up on the market values.

[chris vickery]

I am curious too. No buyers there from MLU???

[charlie fitton]

Bryan M went - hopefully he will share with us...

[James Fritz]

No connection to the seller.

42 carrier - $17,000
53 M38A1 - running with doors and side curtains - $5,700
54 deuce - running with custom tarp and ramp - $2,400
44 15 cwt - running with extra new gas tank - $2,000
44 parts truck - $125
No. 19 radio with antenna - $200
24 volt generator - $70

[chris vickery]

Wow, looks like a few good deals were had
The CMP and 19 set in particular...
With those kind of prices I am sure the many smalls went cheap too.

[Wayne Hingley]

Originally Posted by chris vickery

Wow, looks like a few good deals were had
The CMP and 19 set in particular...

I was thinking the same thing. No crowd showed up???

[chris vickery]

Auctions can be funny. It depends on lots of variables, time and place, weather and the date. I am guessing that holding it on a long weekend likely contributed to a less than stellar showing of interested parties. On the other hand, I have attended auctions when the weather was crappy expecting to see a small crowd but then everyone showed up!
The last really big auction of military related items was at John Adamiaks' about 10 years ago. Everyone was there but there were plenty of good deals to be had anyway. I suppose the collector crowd kept the prices in line with reality.