the C8 I am working on

[Gordon Yeo]

Alex

Canada is a big country with many different temperature and humidity variations. In post #2 I showed pictures of a truck cab that I brought home from the Province of Manitoba. Manitoba is very cold in the winter and very hot and dry in the summer, as a result the rust issues that Holland and Ontario deal with are far less out there. The Manitoba cab provided a dot&dash floor that had virtually no rust pitting and perfectly preserved and complete interior sheet metal. The roof and fenders needed no patching or straightening and the windshield frame was in very,very good condition. Between the Manitoba truck cab and the Ripley truck cab and chassis I had enough good parts to build the restoration. If I had not gotten the Manitoba cab I would be fighting the same corrosion problems as your restoration. After seeing what some other MLU members restore and create I seem to be only taking on the easy trucks to restore.

Does that make me lazy or shrewd?

Gord

[Mike K]

My first C8 a cab 12 , had the hooks that keep the doors slightly open. Was this a Australian mod. ? I guess it was done to improve the air flow into the cab in hot conditions. Has anybody else noticed the hooks ?

[Bob Carriere]

I fear necessity caused the retro fit of those ugly hooks.

Early cab 11 did not have them and when installed they used existing holes for the cowl screws and substituted the hooks eyelets in place of the screw. A lot of the cab 12 I have seen had new/extra holes drilled in the cowl facing. They were not very elegant.

I have not yet installed the insulation inside the engine cover and can tell you the sheet on the passengerf side get hot enough to burn knee caps if you are wearing short pants.

A number of early parade ground photos in Canada shows the driver's door wide open and resting on the cargo box...... eventually all cab 12 and retro on cab 11 a canvass restraining strap was installed that prevent the door from opening more than some 90 degree..... maybe that's when they started using the ugly door hooks

Cheers

[Phil Waterman]

Hi Guys

Drive my Pat 12 that way if the air temp is above 70F. I use short bungee cords to make sure the hooks don't bounce out, yes I've had them bounce up but not out. I also drive with my seat belt on, because if the hook does come out your instinct is to grab for the door.

There is one problem though if your hood or nose side panels are missing the little rubber strips, all that love hot air being blown out the engine compartment is scooped up by the doors. This most noticeable at low speed high RPMs.

I'll be driving my Pat 12 over to our summer rally tomorrow, for cast 85-90 F high humidity, so even with the cab top off, will be driving with doors on the hooks an windshield open.

Cheers Phil

[Phil Waterman]

Hi Guys

Thought you might get a kick out of this, drove the Pat 12 C60L over to our rally for the week this morning with the doors on the hooks. Air temp in the 85+F or 20 C range at 10AM this morning.

Pat 12 on the door hooks.jpg

As far as the speedo was concerned never exceeded 30MPH but then again it doesn't read any higher than that. Shoot GoPro of all the runs in each truck so will have to edit them and get them posted.

Cheers Phil

Love those videos of CMP rides.

[Wayne Hingley]

It looks like a beautiful day for a drive in the CMP Phil. I bet there was a big smile on your face. Looking forward to your video.

[Phil Waterman]

Hi Guys

Well it happened for the first time today one of the doors on the Pattern 12 decided to pop open while driving down the road.

Fortunately it happened at low speed, had just pulled off the highway and was climbing a steep hill in 2nd gear and the left hand door swung open. Didn't even swing all the way back no damage done. My biggest worry was that I'd meet another vehicle and have them hit the door. Got to the top of the hill road widened and as I pulled over on the flat and braked the door swung shut on its own, and latched.

Reached over and hooked the bungee I use to be sure the door hook stays put when running the truck with the door open on the hooks. Strangely I had the drivers side door open on the hook at the time.

Wonder if this is one of the reason they went over from the single to the double notch door strikes on the Pattern 13s the following year. Has anybody seen a double notch door strike on a pattern 11 or 12 ?

Cheers Phil