1944 C-15A-Wire-5 Restoration

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Bases, insulators, guys and spikes for the masts if they aren't in the aerial gear bag, 2 pair of 85 AH batteries in wooden cases, hydrometer and case, message pads, cyphers and office logs, equipment working instructions, POL tins, cam net, broom and dust pan, signaler, driver and NCO......

I haven't seen a kit list and suspect it was a combination of everything required for each of the wireless set, remotes, aerial gear, generators and vehicle. Chris S. might know.

[Robert Bergeron]

Thanks Bruce.

Only things missing in your list is the hydrometer , the two 85 AH batteries in the wooden cases and the NCO's..

What do those batteries look like size wise ?

I might just find a modern equivalent.

[Eric R.]

Originally Posted by Robert Bergeron

Thanks Bruce.

Only things missing in your list is the hydrometer , the two 85 AH batteries in the wooden cases and the NCO's..

What do those batteries look like size wise ?

I might just find a modern equivalent.

I thought there was a thread somewhere around here with the info on how to reproduce the battery boxes. I looked and couldn't find it in my subscribed threads.

Ohhhh here it is i found it: http://www.mapleleafup.net/forums/sh...ss+battery+box

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

I got Harold Lang's laser cut parts to make up a pair of these (yet another project), but need four for my HUW, you need four and Jordan another four. The inside operating batteries are hidden and could be modern, so what we need is the finger jointed wooden boxes with the lettering and hardware that shows.

[Eric R.]

Originally Posted by Bruce Parker

I got Harold Lang's laser cut parts to make up a pair of these (yet another project), but need four for my HUW, you need four and Jordan another four. The inside operating batteries are hidden and could be modern, so what we need is the finger jointed wooden boxes with the lettering and hardware that shows.

If you want to make a list add me on to it too please? I actually need to call and talk to you about some wireless documentation I am looking for on my truck. Randy and Frank keep telling me to get in touch with you but I keep forgetting.

The boxes are easy to make. All you need is a finger joint jig and I will have one coming so I can make some WW1 ammo boxes. Planned on making up some of the battery boxes too. hardware might be tough to procure though.

[Robert Bergeron]

Thanks guys.

Put me on your list for two boxes please Bruce .

Eric reminded me i already had two !

So tomorrow a picture of the rest of the stuff that goes in the box , and there is a lot !

How the four guys managed living and working in that small box with all the necessary equipment on board is a miracle !

[Bruce Parker (RIP)]

Originally Posted by Eric R.

If you want to make a list add me on to it too please? I actually need to call and talk to you about some wireless documentation I am looking for on my truck. Randy and Frank keep telling me to get in touch with you but I keep forgetting.

The boxes are easy to make. All you need is a finger joint jig and I will have one coming so I can make some WW1 ammo boxes. Planned on making up some of the battery boxes too. hardware might be tough to procure though.

You handle the finger joints...I'll sort out the hardware and dimensions.

[Robert Bergeron]

Friends,

Today i fitted an original Chevy doghouse in the driving compartment. It is a perfect fit and brings the restoration closer to original !

In the background we see original wartime advertising by General Motors : '' Keep em' rolling '' , and

the black-out driving light of a Mk II Carrier also .

Wanted : Original spring clips ( 2) to hold the doghouse to the floor of the cab.

[Robert Bergeron]

Today finished painting the charging cabinet and setting up the Chorehorses , wiring and tool and spare boxes .

[Hanno Spoelstra]

Originally Posted by Robert Bergeron

Wanted : Original spring clips ( 2) to hold the doghouse to the floor of the cab.

I bought those off Brian Asbury years ago, maybe he still has them.

You're making great progress BTW!

[Chris Suslowicz]

Originally Posted by Bruce Parker

You handle the finger joints...I'll sort out the hardware and dimensions.

Dimensions will be the same as the post-WW2 steel-cased replacements, because those had to be interchangeable with the wooden-cased ones and fit the appropriate trays and clamps.

Chris.

[Robert Bergeron]

Thanks Hanno and Chris,

The poster on the wall behind the No 19 set is this in the picture.

It tells pretty much all you have to do to install the No 19 set in the truck.

I will follow up on your references Chris .

Tomorrow , work to make a battery tray to the right front of the box !

[Chris Suslowicz]

Originally Posted by Bruce Parker

Bases, insulators, guys and spikes for the masts if they aren't in the aerial gear bag, 2 pair of 85 AH batteries in wooden cases, hydrometer and case, message pads, cyphers and office logs, equipment working instructions, POL tins, cam net, broom and dust pan, signaler, driver and NCO......

I haven't seen a kit list and suspect it was a combination of everything required for each of the wireless set, remotes, aerial gear, generators and vehicle. Chris S. might know.

Unfortunately, no. I suspect what you need is the relevant pamphlet from "Regulations for the equipment of the Army" Part 2, Pamphlet 13 (+ a letter suffix), although those may have been readily available at the time. The ones I do have are sections F, J & P and deal with telegraph companies (Air-Line section, Supplementary Reserve and Line Maintenance). They do list all the tools, equipment, and consumable supplies for each type of unit.

As for a signal office, most of the supplies were issued in "Boxes, Telegraph Equipment, Unit 'B'" which turns out to be a standard legal "Deed Box" (lockable) painted the usual green, and holding message pads (C2128, C2130, C2136, as required) Wireless Log, Signal Register (B2504), writing materials, the Stamp, Army Signal Dating (possibly), D/R docket books, and so forth (depending on the size/scale of the signal office).

Needs more research!

Chris.

[Chris Suslowicz]

Originally Posted by Chris Suslowicz

Needs more research!

Chris.

Thinking about it some more, the various "Signal Training" publications may help, in particular:

Signal Training (All Arms) 1938 - the sectio on Signal Office Working, or
Signal Training (All Arms) Pamphlet No.8 Signal Office Working (1942 or 1944)

for larger Signal Offices, there's:

Signal Training Volume V, Signal Office Organisation and Procedure, 1938

(I don't have many of the WW2 pamphlets that replaced that, only a couple of the "Procedure" ones, so I suspect the 1938 "Organisation" part was still in use.)

Chris.